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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Hi Anonymous</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Well, you appear to be asking how to overcome the objection that the Bible we received must be accepted in its present form because God supposedly would not allow this to exist unless it was His will. Am I close to identifying the point you anticipate will be raised against ignoring Paul? </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Of course, this objection has no Bible support itself. It is just a human doctrine. </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">It may be influenced by the mistranslation of 2 Tim. 3:16 -- rendered as "All scripture is inspired of God." But in Greek, the KJV inferred IS there where it did not belong. It truly reads "all <strong>scripture inspired</strong> of God is useful," etc. See <a href="/recommendedreading/669-mistranslation-of-2-timothy-3-16-causes-misunderstanding-on-word-scripture.html">link</a>.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">First, it was always absurd to say all "scripture" -- a word simply meaning a <strong>writing</strong> - is inspired, as that would mean my email here, and yours to me would be inspired because they are writings too. This is why Tyndale in 1536 rendered this from the Greek -- as was the Latin translation too -- only that "all <strong>inspired scripture</strong> is profitable," etc. <a href="/recommendedreading/669-mistranslation-of-2-timothy-3-16-causes-misunderstanding-on-word-scripture.html">Id</a>.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">More important is the following information to challenge the human supposition behind this objection you allude to: </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; color: #222222;">1. In 1885, the King James Bible removed several books that were included in the 1611 KJV Bible. See <a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Apocrypha-Books/">link</a>. </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">So did God make a mistake for 274 years? or did He allow us to make a mistake for 274 years? It necessarily is the latter, because God does not make mistakes.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">2. Also, reading Jesus over Paul is a proper Protestant hermeneutic if we follow even Luther's principle of how to read canon when one passage contradicts another. We just make a different choice than Luther did on who is our sole teacher.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">When Luther started the reformation, and did not merely correct Catholic errors on indulgencies and baptism for justification, Luther relied upon Paul to change salvation doctrine to faith alone. Luther did so by claiming Paul was in "advance" of Jesus and Moses. Luther recognized that Paul contradicted both. Thus, Luther for the first 17 years of the Reformation taught that it is proper we read Paul, and we can ignore the Jesus speaking in Mark, Luke & John who was "behind" Paul in wisdom and inspiration. </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">First, read this from Luther:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; padding-left: 30px;">“There is no man living on Earth Who knows how to distinguish between The law and the gospel … <span style="font-weight: bold; color: #494a44; background: white;">even the man Jesus Christ was so wanting in Understanding</span> when he was in the vineyard that an angel had to console him though he was a doctor from heaven he was strengthened by the angel.” (Luther, <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=g_swDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA53&ots=vVQoqbrqPZ&dq=%E2%80%9Cwas%20so%20wanting%20in%20understanding%E2%80%9D&pg=PA53#v=onepage&q=%E2%80%9Cwas%20so%20wanting%20in%20understanding%E2%80%9D&f=false"><span style="background: white;">Luther Works 54</span></a>, 127.)</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: 18pt; color: black;">Second, read this from Luther in the 1522 Preface to the NT: "the<span style="font-weight: bold;"> Epistles of St. Paul</span> and St. Peter<span style="font-weight: bold;"> are far in <span style="color: #ff0000;">advance</span> of the three Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke</span>." See <span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">"Luther's Criticism of Scripture," The Bibliotheca sacra (Dallas Theological Seminary: 1906) Volume 63 at </span><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=hlkQAAAAYAAJ&dq=%22preferred%20to%20the%20other%20three%22&pg=PA18#v=onepage&q=%22preferred%20to%20the%20other%20three%22&f=false" style="color: #000000; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">18</a><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">, citing Luther </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">Preface to the New Testament</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;"> from E.A. lxii, 137.)</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">You can see the word "advance" is used in the last quote similar to how Luther in the first quote says Jesus is "wanting" in "understanding" on the Law which obviously Luther thought only Paul supposedly understood was abrogated. Jesus is therefore supposedly behind Paul in wisdom and inspiration, so Luther implied. The driving wedge was Jesus' adherence to the Law.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Luther explained not only why he prefers Paul over Jesus of the Gospels, but also why he picks Paul over James who is also in the Bible -- James and Paul too contradict:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: 18pt; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #494a44;">Many sweat hard at reconciling James with Paul, but unsuccessfully. ‘Faith justifies [</span><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans+3%3A28&version=YLT">Romans 3:28</a><span style="color: #494a44;">] stands in </span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #494a44;">flat contradiction </span><span style="color: #494a44;">of ‘faith that does not justify’ [</span><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=james+2%3A24&version=YLT">James 2:24</a><span style="color: #494a44;">.] If anyone can harmonize these sayings, I’ll put my doctor’s cap on him and let him call me a fool....</span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #494a44;">Flatly against St. Paul</span><span style="color: #494a44;"> and all the rest of Scripture, it [James] ascribes righteousness to works, and says Abraham was justified by his works, in that he offered his son Isaac [James 2:21], though </span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #494a44;">St. Paul, on the contrary teaches</span><span style="color: #494a44;"> in Romans 4 [vv. 2-3], that Abraham was justified without works, by faith alone, before he offered his son, and proves it by Moses in Genesis 15 [v.6]. [Quoted in Jason Von Vliet, </span><span style="font-style: italic; color: #494a44;"><strong>Living Waters from Ancient Springs: Essays in Honor of Cornelis Van Dam</strong></span><span style="color: #494a44;"> (Wipf & Stock Publishers 2011) at </span><a href="https://books.google.com.pr/books?id=UctMAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA235&dq=Jason%20Van%20Vliet%2C%20Ed.%2C%20Living%20Waters%20from%20Ancient%20Springs%3A%20Essays%20in%20Honor%20of%20Cornelis%20Van%20Dam&pg=PA103#v=onepage&q=Jason%20Van%20Vliet,%20Ed.,%20Living%20Waters%20from%20Ancient%20Springs:%20Essays%20in%20Honor%20of%20Cornelis%20Van%20Dam&f=false">103</a><span style="color: #494a44;">.] [FOOTNOTE 1]</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">FOOTNOTE 1: By the way, Paul misread Genesis 15:6. Abraham attributed God's giving him a baby in old age to the righteousness of God. It was not God attributing righteousness to Abraham for believing God would do this. See <a href="/recommendedreading/169-chapter-26-7jwo-genesis-156.html">link</a>. END FOOTNOTE.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Thus, due to Paul contradicting Jesus and James, one must choose which path to follow. It is an either / or decision. Will we follow Jesus and James? Or will we follow Paul? </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">In the end, Luther reversed his decision, and he too rejected Paul. But he did it subtly. He said in 1537 in the <strong>Antinomian</strong> <strong>Theses</strong> -- to rebut Agricola who said Paul displaces Jesus, and thus we can ignore Jesus -- that from now on anyone who teaches against the Law, the Ten Commandments in particular, is a "false prophet" even if he talks a lot about "grace." In context, Luther was pushing against Agricola's claim that Paul was the sole dispensation. Luther's aim was to restore authority back to Jesus. Luther had made the opposite choice earlier, and now had a chance to repent, and did so.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">On this 1537 writing of Luther, see <a href="/recommendedreading/399-luther-on-law-and-false-prophet.html">link</a>.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Unfortunately, we are never reminded today that Luther brought Melancthon -- his successor upon his death -- along. And that after Luther's death, Lutheran doctrine changed by 1555 to a non-Pauline Double Justification doctrine of salvation. Melancthon -- the head of Lutheranism after Luther died -- championed this in what today is called the Majoristic Controversy. (See our article on the <a href="/recommendedreading/226-george-major-and-melancthon.html" style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18pt;">Majoristic Controversy.</a>) </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">After Melancthon died in 1560, the faith-alone party of Lutheranism gradually ascended. In 1580, it repealed the Double Justification doctrine. The sola-fidists replaced it with faith alone both for how one became a Christian as well as how one is always saved thereafter even though engaging in unrepentant evil. <span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18pt;">This is discussed and proven in the </span><a href="/recommendedreading/227-preface-2-jwos.html" style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18pt;">Preface </a><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18pt;">to Jesus' Words on Salvation. </span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Thus, if one selects Jesus over Paul, we are still using the same principle of Luther on how to measure canon -- giving emphasis to one part over another based upon how we resolve the contradiction between Paul and Jesus. Those who accept Jesus as the sole voice of the New Covenant to whom we must obey are giving Jesus this authority for good reasons. </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">First, Jesus said He is our 'sole pastor" (John 10:16) and "sole teacher" (Matt 23:8-11.) </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">Also, Jesus warned of a false teacher named the Least who would teach us not to obey God's Law. Matt 5:17-19. And scholars realized in the 1900s that Paulus -- Paul's name in Latin -- is a contraction of pauxilillus in Latin -- a word meaning LEAST. The scholars said Augustine revealed the meaning of this contraction in the 300s in a passing explanation of why Paul calls himself the "Least" in the Greek of his epistles. See <a href="/recommendedreading/280-jesus-on-paul-the-least.html">link</a>.</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;">And many more reasons appear in the Further Reading page at Jesus' Words Only under Selected Articles on Paulinism: <a href="/recommendedreading.html">link</a>.</p>
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