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<h1><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Was Paul A Dupe, A Deceiver or Tampered With?</span></strong></span></h1>
<p style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Hi Doug,</span></p>
<p style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">I pray your efforts will be blessed as you strive to glorify YHWH through Yahshua.</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></p>
<p style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">I may have asked this before, but please indulge me again...Do you think Paul flipped later in his ministry, or was he calculating his moves from the beginning, or do you think it's possible that through the years his writings were manipulated to introduce the false gospel you are illuminating?</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></p>
<p style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Sincerely</span></p>
<p style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Bless YHWH!</span></p>
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<h1 style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">My Response July 30, 2015</span></strong></span></h1>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Hi LP</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">I suspect Paul genuinely believed he met Yahshua / Jesus on the road to Damascus. Hence, I don&rsquo;t believe he calculated his moves from the beginning. Paul was a dupe. The Jesus whom Paul met fits Jesus&rsquo;s warning about someone coming in His name &ndash; claiming to be &ldquo;Jesus&rdquo; (Yahshua) &ndash; in the wilderness. Paul accepted a person who said "I am Jesus" in the wildnerness outside Damascus as the real deal. So it began genuine, which means Paul was a genuine dupe.</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">As to whether Paul&rsquo;s writings were manipulated,&nbsp; I do find that it is possible (but not likely) that Paul&rsquo;s writings were altered later to embody the doctrine we hear today. &nbsp;For the Paul of Acts is so at variance with the Paul of his epistles that Paul would have to be an amazing chameleon to fool Luke, and espouse views in front of Luke which are diametrically opposed to Paul's views in Paul's epistles. Here is what Paul appears to be in Luke&rsquo;s Acts as seen by Luke:</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">1. Paul told a court in<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span><a href="http://biblehub.com/acts/26-20.htm"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Acts 26:20</span></a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">&nbsp;(ASV) that he "declared [his gospel] both to them of Damascus first and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the country of Judaea, and also to the Gentiles, that<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><strong><em>they should repent and turn to God, doing works worthy of repentance</em></strong>."</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">2. Paul in<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span><a href="http://biblehub.com/acts/17-30.htm"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Acts 17:30</span></a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">says: "In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><strong><em>he commands all people everywhere to repent</em></strong>." Paul was referring to idolatry in the prior verse -- not the lack of faith.</span></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">3. Paul in Acts endorses all the Law: "</span><strong><sup><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></sup></strong><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">However, I admit that I worship the God of our ancestors&nbsp;as a follower of the Way,&nbsp;which they call a sect.&nbsp;<strong><em>I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets.</em></strong>..." (Acts<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%2024&amp;version=NIV"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">24:14</span></a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span>NIV.)</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Paul's epistles, of course, are famous for the opposite position -- an anti-Law and anti-works (of repentance) Gospel.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">To believe Paul carried this off, and truly wrote the epistles too, means Paul would have to be extremely successful at <strong>profound </strong><strong>guile </strong>with Luke to keep him from learning Paul's true beliefs. &nbsp;Could this be truly possible? Could that be the true explanation of the major discrepancy? Or is tampering the better explanation?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">At this time, it is not likely that tampering is the correct explanation. For there is no clearly probable evidence of tampering that I have found. &nbsp;The only evidence for it is the late appearance of Paul's epistles (except two) in 200 A.D. in papyrus 46. They were&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">collected in one volume with no other present books of the new Testament. &nbsp;That opens up the possibility that prior to 200 A.D. that the versions were different.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">On other hand, it is easier to believe Paul used guile on Luke. For Paul boasted of exactly the kind of guile necessary to explain how Luke<em><strong> only saw a law-endorsing and works-worthy-of-repentance-Gospel version of Paul</strong></em>. Such a boast can explain the necessary behavior Paul would have to pull off -- act one way in front of Luke but write epistles behind Luke's back that speak very differently. Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians that he did use such behavior with the Corinthians:</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">But be it so, I did not myself burden you; but, being<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><em><strong>crafty</strong></em>, I<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><strong><em>caught you with guile</em></strong>. (2 Cor.</span><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20corinthians%2012:16&amp;version=ASV"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">12:16</span></a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">, ASV.)</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Likewise, in 1 Corinthians 9 and 10, Paul says he plays the chameleon as an evangelical tactic:</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">"For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><em><strong>to the Jews I became as a Jew</strong></em>, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law;<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong><em>&nbsp;</em></strong></span><strong><em>to those who are without the law as without law... that I might win those who are without law</em></strong>; to the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+corinthians+9%3A19-22&amp;version=ASV">1Corinthians 9:19-22</a></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">"Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, just as<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong><em>&nbsp;</em></strong></span><em><strong>I also please all men in all things</strong></em>, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved. Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ." <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+corinthians+10%3A31-33&amp;version=ASV">1Corinthians 10:31-33</a></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Hence, I believe the better explanation at present of the discrepancy betwen the Paul depicted in Acts and the one present in Paul's epistles is due to Paul <em><strong>behaving as a tactician of self-admitted deception</strong></em> -- here misleading Luke as to Paul's true opinions and values to Paul's advantage. Paul thereby duped Luke. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">Even so, one must acknowledge that to believe this, one must also believe that Luke would have been <em><strong>extremely gullible</strong></em> to never see through Paul's actor's mask. We would have to believe Luke trusted Paul despite rumors and tell-tale signs that Luke even mentions, <em>e.g</em>., see <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+21%3A20-22&amp;version=ASV">Acts 21:20-22</a> where James raises the question of rumors of "apostasy" that Paul was departing from Moses. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">So naturally we would ask: didn't Luke instead investigate the rumor mentioned in Acts 21 that Paul taught the Law given Moses no longer even applied to Jews? If so, did Luke truly find no proof of what we now see riddles all of the principal Pauline letters, <span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><em>i.e.</em>, an anti-Law theory repeated numerous times and in numerous ways? That Paul taught faith alone without repentance from sin, like Abraham whom Paul says was "justified while ungodly" by faith alone (Romans 4:3-5)? Or were these ideas added later, and that is why Luke did not find any of these theories in Paul's extant writings of that era that contradicts Paul's views expressed in quotes #1, #2, and #3 above from Acts?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span>It is inviting to think tampering is the best explanation. Yet, there is no other serious evidence other than this discrepancy itself that Paul's writings were written by another.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">This leaves us at present with only two likely conclusions that explains all these facts: (a) Paul was a consummate guileful deceiver (as he himself twice boasts) to present himself to Luke as endorsing the Law and repentance as works-worthy-of-repentance as the quotes from Acts above prove -- quotes #1, #2 and #3 from Acts above; and (b) Luke was willing to give Paul the benefit of the doubt, and did no investigation on the rumors discussed in Acts 21 that would conflict with quotes #1, #2 and #3 above.</span></p>
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