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<p><span style="font-size: x-large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #000080;"><strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Septuagint Errors and Question of its Inspiration</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">In 1886,&nbsp;Alfred Edersheim wrote <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah</span>. This was a highly scholarly work by a devout Christian gentleman.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">He explained the background on the translation of the Hebrew Bible into Greek in what we know as the Septuagint&nbsp;Bible. He claims that all we will reliably know about it origin is that it was commissioned under the reign of a particular Pharoah in Egypt around 247 BC. The contention that it was done by 6 translators for each of the 12 tribes, totaling 72, is contained in a spurious letter, Edersheim thus implying that is not reliable truth. (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Life and Times of Jesus, </span><em>supra</em>,&nbsp;at 25.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Next, Edersheim explains that the Septuagint was not divided as the original Hebrew Bible. The Original Testament is divided into the law, prophets and writings. Instead, the Septuagint was divided into 3 different compartments called the historical, prophetical, and poetical.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Next, the Septuagint also had a loose view of inspiration because it even admitted the Apocrypha into this Greek Bible. Edersheim then begins to identify quality issues, pointing out that that "it differs in almost innumerable instances from our own," <em>i.e.</em> , the Hebrew Bible. (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Life and Times of Jesus, </span><em>supra</em>, at page 27.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">In terms of the quality of the translation, Edersheim explains that it is&nbsp;clear that the Septuagint "is inferior" and sides in favor of a "slavish and false literalism," while "there is great Liberty, if not license, in handling the original text." And Edersheim adds that "gross mistakes occur along with happy renderings of very difficult passages....." (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Life and Times of Jesus, </span><em>supra</em>, at&nbsp;page 27.)</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;These are often "unsatisfactory."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">At times there are adaptations to Greek philosophical ideas. For example "even Siegfried is obliged&nbsp;to admit that the rendering in Genesis 1:2 bears undeniable marks of Grecian philosophical views." (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Life and Times of Jesus, </span><em>supra,</em> at&nbsp;page 28 note 1.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Then Edersheim continues, saying that "difficulties - or what seems such - are removed by the most bold method, and by free handling of the text," and does so "often very unsatisfactorily." (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Life and Times of Jesus</span>, <em>supra</em>, at&nbsp;28.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Edersheim adds that the Septuagint translation became regarded as inspired by the Jews living in the Greek speaking world. Then Edersheim comments: </span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">"Only that we must not regard their views of inspiration - except as applying to Moses, and even there only partially - is identical with ours. To their minds inspiration differed quantitatively, not qualitatively, from what the rapt soul might at any time experience, so the heathen Philosopher may ultimately be regarding as at times inspired." (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Life and Times of Jesus</span>, supra, at page 29.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Finally, on the issue of accuracy, Edersheim says that despite this high early regard, "later voices in the synagogue declared this version to have been as great a calamity to Israel as the making of the golden calf." (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Life and Times of Messiah</span>, <em>supra</em>, page 30.)</span></p>
<h2><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Origen In About 217 AD Says Jews Dissatisfied with Septuagint Too</span></strong></span></h2>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">In an article at Coptic Church.com, we read: "In&nbsp;</span><i style="font-family: arial, tahoma, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; text-align: justify;">Hom. 12:5; 5:8; 7:5; and 12:4</i><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;Origen points out that the Jews have rejected part of the Septuagint." (See <a href="http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/patrology/schoolofalex2/chapter02.html">link.</a>)</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Jerome Identifies Errors</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">In the late 300s AD, Jerome affirms that the Hebrew text in the fourth century read differently than the Septuagtint of two passages. For example, Isaiah 11:1 said “He shall be called a Nazarene” which Jerome says Matthew 2:23 was quoting. Proverbs 18:4 no longer reads “Rivers of living water shall flow out of his belly.” Jerome was saying these Messianic texts quoted by the apostles were all missing in the Septuagint but were present in the Hebrew text in Jeromes hands in the Fourth Century.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">What is more startling is that apparently due to the influence of Augustine, Jeromes Latin Vulgate translation of 405 A.D. was evidently tampered with. This is demonstrable because these verses (Isaiah 11:1, Proverbs 18:4) which are cited by Jerome as proof of&nbsp;<em><strong>Septuagint corruption</strong></em>&nbsp;are shockingly left to read in the Latin Vulgate in the form that Jerome says was a Septuagint corruption.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Thus, Roman Catholicism which later adopted and published the Latin Vulgate published a version of Jeromes Latin Vulgate that had verses which Jerome in his letters had vigorously disputed as corrupted. We do not know why.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Yet, is it merely coincidence that Augustine was the leading formulator after 325 A.D. of &nbsp;Roman Catholic doctrine and was its leading bishop at the time the Roman church adopted the Latin Vulgate of Jerome as the official Bible? Is it important that Augustine vigorously dissented from Jeromes efforts, and tried previously to instruct him to use only the Septuagint but received strong rebuke from Jerome?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">On Augustines vigorous opposition to using the Hebrew for Jeromes translation sent in a letter to Jerome, see Augustine, Letter LXXI,&nbsp;<em>Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers</em>&nbsp;(First Series) Vol. 1.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">It appears Augustine had the last laugh in the debate with Jerome, having the power to change the Vulgate to match the Septuagint. For Jerome died in 419 A.D. and Augustine in 430 A.D.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<h1 style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; line-height: 40px; font-weight: normal; font-size: 28px; color: #2e496a; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><strong><span style="font-size: x-large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #000080;">Why Push the Septuagint At Odds With Hebrew Scripture?</span></strong></h1>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">What was Augustines or anyone elses motive to make the Latin Vulgate match only the Septuagint? Why make the Septuagint version control over the Hebrew? In these two cases, John 7:38 and Matthew 2:25, if you use the Septuagint, you subtract two Messianic prophecies (Isaiah 11:1, Proverbs 18:4) that in Jeromes day were only in the Hebrew Canon. By doing so, you also make two of the twelve apostles look like liars for quoting these passages. What was the priority?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">By the 300s, it became a priority to protect only Paul even at the expense of Matthew and&nbsp;Johns credibility. For the choice confronting Augustine (and he knew the issue directly from Jerome) was that if the Septuagint was in error, Paul is uninspired (and so too the apostles when personally quoting Scripture), &nbsp;but if you rely upon the Septuagint above the Hebrew canon, you can maintain Pauls inspired nature but at the expense of making Matthew and John out to be liars. This because John 7:38 and Matthew 2:25 would be quoting completely non-existant verses in the Septuagint. Thats a far cry from merely quoting a text that is defectively translated in the Septuagint. Paul survives, but Matthew and John take devastating hits if one has a critical eye. Do you see the priority?</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: x-large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #000080;"><strong>The Septuagint Differences &amp; How They Prove Pauls Fallibility</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><br /><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">However, clearly the main reason Augustine or others altered the Vulgate to match the Septuagint was to maintain the notion that even when not quoting Jesus, the apostles were infallible. The King James Bibles introduction says of the Septuagint, “the apostles habitually quoted from it...” What they really mean is Paul and sometimes the Greek translator of Matthew or apostles in their letters quote the Septuagint, even when materially different from the Hebrew Scripture. As I have said before, Jesus never tells us the twelve apostles are inspired prophets. Hence, they might erroneously rely upon the Septuagint even when it differs substantially from the Hebrew canon. The Hebrew canon controls.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">For Paulinists, however, Pauls reliability hangs in the balance. He rarely if ever quotes Jesus. If all his arguments (which we will see below depends on citing the defective Septuagint<strong><em>&nbsp;twenty-nine times</em></strong>) are just himself talking, what would happen to Paul as part of canon? The gospel writers enjoyed authority because they quoted Jesus. They could withstand and still be validly inspired when quoting Jesus even if Christians knew their commentary was not necessarily inspired. Yet, what would happen to Paul? He would disappear for nothing he says is dependent on Jesus himself. Thus, for Paulinists like Augustine, the Latin Vulgate just had to match the Septuagint to save Paul. However, if we accept the Septuagint as inspired, then Roman Catholics can justly claim the Apocrypha is part of Scripture. The Apocrypha was accepted by the translators of the Septuagint as inspired text.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><br /><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">What a quandry we end up in when we try to defend Paul as inspired. To be consistent, if we want the Septuagint to be inspired to save Paul, we have to also accept what obviously was uninspired (the Apocrypha) be regarded as part of Scripture because the Apocrypha was part of the Septuagint. What an ugly choice! Which is why the solution proposed in my&nbsp;<em>Jesus' Words Only</em>&nbsp;book&nbsp;works best: Paul is uninspired unless quoting Jesus validly. Since Paul never does, Paul does not belong in canon.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">So, if you concur with me that if Paul accepted a defective translation of the Hebrew canon in the Septuagint, this proves his fallibility. Here is a partial list of twenty-nine quotations in Pauls writings that come from the Septuagint at odds with the Hebrew:</span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 2:24 / Isaiah 52:5 - the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles. Hebrew - blasphemed (there is no mention of the Gentiles).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 3:4 / Psalm 51:4 - thou mayest “prevail” (or overcome) when thou art judged. Hebrew - thou might “be clear” when thou judges.</span></li>
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<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 3:12 / Psalm 14:1,3 - they have gone wrong.” Hebrew - they are “corrupt” or “filthy.”</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 3:13 / Psalm 5:9 - they use their tongues to deceive. Hebrew - they flatter with their tongues. There is no “deceit” language.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 3:13 / Psalm 140:3 - the venom of “asps” is under their lips. Hebrew - “Adder's” poison is under their lips.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 3:14 / Psalm 10:7 - whose mouth is full of curses and “bitterness.” Hebrew - cursing and “deceit and oppression.”</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 9:25 / Hosea 2:23 - I will call my people; I will call my beloved. Hebrew - I will have mercy (love versus mercy).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 9:27 / Isaiah 10:22 -&nbsp;<em><strong>only a remnant of them “will be saved.” Hebrew - only a remnant of them “will return.”</strong></em></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 9:29 / Isaiah 1:9 - had not left us “children.” Hebrew - Yahweh had left us a “very small remnant.”</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 9:33; 10:11; 1 Peter 2:6 / Isaiah 28:16 - he who believes will not be “put to shame.” Hebrew - shall not be “in haste.”</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 10:18 / Psalm 19:4 - their “voice” has gone out. Hebrew - their “line” is gone out.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 10:20 / Isaiah 65:1 - I have “shown myself” to those who did not ask for me. Hebrew - I am “inquired of” by them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 10:21 / Isaiah 65:2 - a “disobedient and contrary” people. Hebrew - a “rebellious” people.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 11:9-10 / Psalm 69:22-23 - “pitfall” and “retribution” and “bend their backs.” Hebrew - “trap” and “make their loins shake.”</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 11:26 / Isaiah 59:20 - will banish "ungodliness." Hebrew - turn from "transgression."</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 11:27 / Isaiah 27:9 - when I take away their sins. Hebrew - this is all the fruit of taking away his sin.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 11:34; 1 Cor. 2:16 / Isaiah 40:13 -the "mind" of the Lord; His "counselor." Hebrew - "spirit" of the Lord; "taught" Him.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 12:20 / Prov. 25:21 - feed him and give him to drink. Hebrew - give him "bread" to eat and "water" to drink.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 15:12 / Isaiah 11:10 - the root of Jesse..."to rule the Gentiles." Hebrew - stands for an ensign. There is nothing about the Gentiles.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Rom. 15:21 / Isaiah 52:15 - been told "of him"; heard "of him." Hebrew - does not mention "him" (the object of the prophecy).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">1 Cor. 1:19 / Isaiah 29:14 - "I will destroy" the wisdom of the wise. Hebrew - wisdom of their wise men "shall perish."</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">1 Cor. 15:55 / Hosea 13:14 - O death, where is thy "sting?" Hebrew - O death, where are your "plagues?"</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">2 Cor. 4:13 / Psalm 116:10 - I believed and so I spoke (past tense). Hebrew - I believe, for I will speak (future tense).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">2 Cor. 6:2 / Isaiah 49:8 - I have "listened" to you. Hebrew - I have "answered" you.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Gal. 3:10 / Deut. 27:26 -<em><strong>&nbsp;cursed be every one who does not "abide" by all things. Hebrew - does not "confirm" the words.</strong></em></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Gal. 3:13 / Deut. 21:23 -&nbsp;<em><strong>cursed is everyone who hangs on a "tree." Hebrew - a hanged man is accursed. The word "tree" does not follow.</strong></em></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Gal. 4:27 / Isaiah 54:1 - "rejoice" and "break forth and shout." Hebrew - "sing" and "break forth into singing."</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">2 Tim. 2:19 / Num. 16:5 - The Lord "knows" those who are His. Hebrew - God will "show" who are His.</span></li>
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<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; line-height: 20px;"><br /><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">The bolded verses above are verses where using the Septuagint materially impacted Pauls salvation doctrine.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large; font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #000080;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Conclusion</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Edersheim is further confirmation from a true Christian scholar that the Septuagint was an unreliable translation, and obviously not inspired in any respect. The evidence from Jerome is likewise. The main impetus to hold onto the Septuagint is that Paul quoted it frequently, basing key doctrines on texts that in the original Hebrew do not support the doctrinal point Paul cited the Septuagint version to establish.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">At our website, we have several articles that each prove a significant Septuagint error that has materially influenced doctrines - sometimes among Jews and sometimes among Christians, and sometimes among both. See:&nbsp;</span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><a href="/topicindex/203-son-as-creator-in-epistle-to-the-hebrews.html" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline;">Erroneous translation of Psalm&nbsp;102:23-25</a></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><a href="/topicindex/203-son-as-creator-in-epistle-to-the-hebrews.html" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline;">Erroneous translation of Psalm 45:6-7</a></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><a href="/topicindex/203-son-as-creator-in-epistle-to-the-hebrews.html" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline;">Erroneous translation of Deuteronomy 34:43</a></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><a href="/topicindex/169-chapter-26-7jwo-genesis-156.html" style="color: #517291;">Erroneous translation of Genesis 15:6</a></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><a href="/topicindex/359-isaiah-96-what-does-it-mean.html" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline;">Erroneous translation of Isaiah 9:6</a></span></li>
<li><a href="/topicindex/568-isaiah-2816-another-septuagint-mistranslation.html"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Erroneous translation of Isaiah 28:16</span></a></li>
<li><a href="/topicindex/592-acts-7-v-14-another-septuagint-error.html"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Erroneous translation of Deut 46:27</span></a></li>
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<h1><hr /><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080;">Study Notes</span></h1>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Paul in Romans used largely the Septuagint. You can tell by the way he renders Joel 2:32 in Romans 10:9-13, and by the way he renders Isaiah 45:23 in Romans 14:8-11.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">On a very scholarly analysis of the mistranslation tendency by the Septuagint translator(s) into Greek, amidst some fine turns of phrases, see Isaac Leo Zeligman, <em>The Septuagint Version of Isaiah</em> (Brill, 1949) at <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=mSoVAAAAIAAJ&amp;lpg=PA43&amp;ots=H0g25MHKBP&amp;dq=isaiah%2028%3A16%20septuagint&amp;pg=PA44#v=onepage&amp;q=isaiah%2028:16%20septuagint&amp;f=false">43-44</a>.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Other Septuagint Errors</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">One of the 10 commandments prohibits "murder." But the Septuagint prohibits if you "kill" -- and it is unclear what. This opens up the question whether killing animals for food is ok. I have people write me, telling me I am going to hell because I have eaten meat, &nbsp;and because I don't think there is anything morally wrong eating meat that was killed. The Wikipedia does a good job on this in its "thou shall not kill" article:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><b style="color: #252525; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px;">Thou shalt not kill</b><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;(</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXX" title="LXX" class="mw-redirect" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">LXX</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">; phoneo&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">),&nbsp;</span><b style="color: #252525; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px;">You shall not murder</b><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;(</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew" title="Biblical Hebrew" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">Hebrew</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;<span style="color: #252525; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px;">ratzákh</span></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">) or&nbsp;</span><b style="color: #252525; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px;">You shall not kill</b><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;(</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KJV" title="KJV" class="mw-redirect" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">KJV</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">), is a moral imperative included as one of the&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments" title="Ten Commandments" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">Ten Commandments</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;in the&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah" title="Torah" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">Torah</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">,</span><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1; font-size: 11.2px; unicode-bidi: -webkit-isolate; color: #252525; font-family: sans-serif;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_kill#cite_note-1" style="color: #0b0080; white-space: nowrap; background: none;">[1]</a></sup><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;specifically&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Exodus" title="Book of Exodus" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">Exodus</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;20:13 and&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuteronomy" title="Deuteronomy" class="mw-redirect" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">Deuteronomy</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;5:17.</span><br data-mce-bogus="1" /></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">The Bible excuses killings of humans, and thus there is a clear difference between this commandment against murder and these exceptions:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">The&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible" title="Hebrew Bible" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">Hebrew Bible</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">&nbsp;contains numerous prohibitions against unlawful killing, but also allows for justified killing in the context of&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warfare" title="Warfare" class="mw-redirect" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">warfare</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">,&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment" title="Capital punishment" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">capital punishment</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">, and&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense" title="Self-defense" style="color: #0b0080; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22.4px; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial;">self-defense</a><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">.&nbsp;<em>Id.</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">The Hebrew word ratzach is never used to refer to killing in war.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><em>Id.</em> Hence, it does not come within the prohibition of "thou shall not murder (ratzach)."</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Here is the <a href="/topicindex/674-septuagint-error-on-murder-verse-leads-astray-many.html">email exchange</a> I received on this topic, claiming I was not truly born again because I have eaten meat, and my response.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Zechariah 12:10 - Messianic Prophecy Missing Meaning in Septuagint</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">In the Hebrew, as rendered in the Revised Standard Version, we read a clear prophesy about Jesus:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"><span class="versenum" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; color: #000000;">10&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of compassion and supplication, so that, when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a first-born. (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=zechariah+12%3A10&amp;version=RSV">Zech 12:10 RSV</a>)</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">However, in the Septuagint Greek translation of 247 BC, this meaning is entirely lost:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">"They shall look upon me, because they have mocked me, and they shall make lamentation for him, as for a beloved [friend], and they shall grieve intensely, as for a firstborn [son]." &nbsp;(Zech. &nbsp;12:10, Septuagint, Zondervan, 1976 printing.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">In other words, (1) they will look upon &nbsp;God whom they have mocked [not "pierced" which is missing entirely in the verse] as their judgment arrives and (2) they will mourn someone as a first-born son. &nbsp;The two are not the same person here -- it would clearly be God and someone who is like a first-born son.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">FYI: There are some manuscripts that say "look on me" in Hebrew but the proof of the early commentators proves which variant is correct. <a href="http://www.lijit.com/search?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lijit.com%2Fusers%2Felijah&amp;start_time=&amp;p=g&amp;blog_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchforbibletruths.blogspot.com%2F&amp;blog_platform=&amp;view_id=&amp;link_id=63731&amp;flavor=&amp;q=Ignatius&amp;x=15&amp;y=11#network" style="color: #c95f5f; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 14.85px; line-height: 20.79px;">Ignatius</a>,<a href="http://www.lijit.com/search?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lijit.com%2Fusers%2Felijah&amp;start_time=&amp;p=g&amp;blog_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchforbibletruths.blogspot.com%2F&amp;blog_platform=&amp;view_id=&amp;link_id=63731&amp;flavor=&amp;q=Irenaeus&amp;x=20&amp;y=12#network" style="color: #c95f5f; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 14.85px; line-height: 20.79px;">Irenaeus</a>,&nbsp; and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.lijit.com/search?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lijit.com%2Fusers%2Felijah&amp;start_time=&amp;p=g&amp;blog_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchforbibletruths.blogspot.com%2F&amp;blog_platform=&amp;view_id=&amp;link_id=63731&amp;flavor=&amp;q=Tertullian&amp;x=27&amp;y=16#network" style="color: #c95f5f; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 14.85px; line-height: 20.79px;">Tertullian</a>&nbsp;(repeatedly) rendered Zech. 12:10 as "<b style="color: #000000; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 14.85px; line-height: 20.79px;">him</b>&nbsp;whom they pierced"!</span></p>
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