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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong>History of Christian Passover</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Wikipedia has an article devoted to the Christian practices toward Passover entitled "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_(Christian_holiday)">Passover (Christian Holiday)</a>." This is helpful on numerous scores, as it collects issues about passion week, the Quatordeciman controversy, etc.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphanius">Epiphanius</a> was a Christian writer who lived between 310 AD to about 403 AD. While ostensibly seemingly criticizing Christians who refused to go along with the new time for Passover in the 300s, admits that Passover formerly was celebrated by Christians at the same time as Jews, but then changed. Epiphanius also admits those who refused to do so accused other Christians of accomodating Constantine. It is apparent that Epiphanius was making it appear he sympathized with Constantine and his cronies so that he could preserve the true history of what was happening. At Tertullian.org, we find this<a href="http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/epiphanius.html"> excerpt</a>:</span></p>
<p style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">&sect;70 - On the schism of the Audians (Excerpt)</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">This excerpt is taken from Vol. 2, pp.410-411; Book III, Heresy 70, chapter 9.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">(2) For they choose to celebrate the Passover with the jews - that is, they <strong>contentiously</strong> celebrate the Passover at the same time that the Jews are holding their Festival of Unleavened Bread.&nbsp; And indeed, &lt;it is true&gt; t<strong>hat this used to be the church's custom</strong> - even though they tell churchmen a <strong>slanderous</strong> thing in this regard and say (3) "You<strong> abandoned</strong> the fathers' Paschal rite in Constantine's time from deference to the emperor, and <strong>changed the day to suit the emperor</strong>." (4) And some, again, declare with a contentiousness of their own, "You changed the Passover to Constantine's birthday"&nbsp;<sup>29</sup></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">9, 5&nbsp; And if the Passover were celebrated on the same day each year, and it had been decided to keep it on that day at the council convoked by Constantine, what they say might be plausible.&nbsp; But since the rite cannot fall on the same day each year, their argument is worthless.&nbsp; The emperor was not concerned for his birthday, but for the unity of the church. (6) In fact God accomplished two highly important things through Constantine, the <strong>most beloved of God and forever the most blessed.</strong> [One was] the gathering of an ecumenical council, and the publication of the creed that was issued at Nicaea and confessed &lt;by&gt; the assembled bishops with their signatures - the deposition of Arius and the declaration to all of the purity of the faith. [The other was] their <strong>correction of the Passover for our unity's sake</strong>.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">9, 7&nbsp; For long ago, even from the earliest days, the Passover was celebrated at different times in the church...&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; line-height: normal; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">(I have omitted to transcribe several pages on the varied methods of calculating Easter used from the second century onwards).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Please note this is obvious self-contradictary sophistry combined with extreme flattery of Constantine, using labels appropriate only for Jesus ("most beloved of God" and "most blessed"). One has to assume that Epiphanius was a captive of the sycophants made rich earlier by the tyrant Constantine [died 337 AD], and Epiphanius did what Eusebius did to pass on the truth -- by hiding the truth amongst flattery of Constantine, and seeming scathing rhetoric against Constantine's enemies but which were obvious fallacies. Epiphanius and Eusebius followed the same course in the hope that posterity would thereby find the truth hidden among such obvious fallascious arguments and lies.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Specifically in the quoted text, Epiphanius first slips in the accusation that those who celebrate Christ's resurrection at Passover time -- the undisputed time of his death and resurrection of Christ, are "<strong>contentiously</strong>" doing so. What is this accusation based upon? Because Epiphanius later says Constantine had to restore unity. Hence, Epiphanius labels the disputants who insist keeping the traditional time of Passover are contentious while Constantine is supposedly unifying. However, then Epiphanius admits that "it is true" that Christians celebrated Passover at the same time as Jews did before Constantine changed it. Thus, who was being contentious? Oh, yes, Epiphanius <strong>let's us know Constantine was the only who was being deliberately contentious</strong> - sowing divisions by his decrees when there was no earlier conflict! </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Epiphanius knew this would pass the censor-sycophants of the vain Constantine. They would only notice opproprium is poured on the ones holding onto Passover to celebrate Christ's death and resurrection. They had a blindspot once they saw some oppropium poured on the true Christian position, never seeing Epiphanius relays facts that undermine the accusation of "contentiousness" while offering nothing to prove Constantine was in fact "unifying" the church over some fractured practice.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">We know Constantine, incidentally, created this dispute entirely on his own, and why. We have Constantine's speech at Nicea which insisted that Christian passover had to change to a date different than the Jews had for Passover to "spite" the Jews so we "Christians" would have nothing in common with them. On that speech, see our article "<a href="/recommendedreading/126-appendix-c-easter.html">The Easter Error.</a>"</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Please also note that Epiphanius slipped in a true argument of the resisters - "<strong>you abandoned the father's Pascal ritual...to suit the Emperor</strong>" Constantine. Epiphanius, if you read carefully, never refutes that true argument. For Epiphanius had to know Constantine moved the Christian Passover to the time to celebrate the goddess Eaostre aka Isis -- the mother of the false god sol invictus -- the Unconquered Son -- Constantine's true favorite god even after supposedly claiming to be a Christian. See <a href="/recommendedreading/245-contantines-damage-to-christianity.html">Constantine's Damage to Christianity</a>.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">How would censor-scycophants of a vain and tyrannical Constantine be expected to overlook a true argument in Epiphanius' writing? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Epiphanius mixes that true point up with a classic sophistic straw man argument which could draw Constantine's sycophants attention away from the fact a true argument was being also relayed. Epiphanius mentions a claim by the passover hold-outs that Constantine wanted to change the date to commemorate his own birthday. Epiphanius argues against the hold-outs in a manner which is obvious enough for the astute reader to detect but is also somewhat confusing that a tyrannical censor would approve it merely because it appears to be against the hold-outs who want to celebrate the resurrection at Passover time.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;"></span><span style="font-size: 18pt;">For Epiphanius then argues Constantine could not want to move Passover to his birthday because had Passover been continued on the Jewish-calendar date, such a date shifts each year to a different date on the Julian calendar. Epiphanius is no idiot - he has to know that has nothing to do with the argument he is rebutting -- they have no logical connection. &nbsp;For Constantine's birthday is on a Julian calendar, and would not shift year to year, as would a Passover date vis-a-vis the Julian. Epiphanius' point is so obviously wrong-headed, he no doubt thought Constantine's cronies would not notice, but Epiphanius must have hoped posterity -- you and me -- would see through what he was doing. Epiphanius was a brave Christian, burying truth among lies and flattery of a Monarch and his ilk to preserve the truth for all of us.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Hence, Epiphanius was relaying to us two truths when you strip away the lies, flattery and illogical nonsense: </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">1. the church always observed Christ's death and resurrection on Nissan 14 in conjunction with the Jews' celebration of Passover. </span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">2. the church changed the date to please Constantine -- obviously to match the observation of the holy time of Eastre / Isis -- the mother of Sol Invictus -- Constantine's personal favorite god.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">Christian Passover</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Dennis Bratcher has an article on how to conduct a Christian Passover seder at this <a href="http://www.crivoice.org/seder.html">link.</a> He ably summarizes the holiday:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">The festival of <strong>Passover</strong>, known as <a href="http://www.crivoice.org/seder.html#pesach:">Pesach</a>, begins at sunset on the 14th of Nisan (usually in March or April) and marks the beginning of a seven day celebration that includes the Feast of Unleavened Bread. <a href="http://www.crivoice.org/seder.html#1">-1-</a> The focal point of Passover is a communal meal, called the <strong>Seder</strong> (which means "order," because of the fixed order of service), which is a time of rejoicing and celebration at the deliverance for the Hebrews that God accomplished in the exodus. Sometimes the meals during the entire period of Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread are referred to as Seder meals, called the first Seder, the Second Seder, etc., although usually only the first two nights are considered Seder meals.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Great advice is at how to "<a href="http://www.life123.com/holidays/jewish-holidays/seder/hosting-a-passover-seder.shtml">Host a Passover Meal</a>." </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">It appears 14th Nissan, right between the "evens" is the Passover slaying and then dinner according to the Bible. See this <a href="http://www.hope-of-israel.org/nisan14p.htm">link</a> from Hope of Israel. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">However, many Jews today disregard this now and say Passover begins on 15th Nissan. See this <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/passover/passoverdate.html">link</a>. Perhaps that position is saying the same thing because Jews view when the moment "between the evens" passes, and sunset begins, it becomes 15th Nissan. So technically the meal is on 15th Nissan. But then does that mean just before the next even, e.g., 23 hours later, or right then, immediately after 14th Nissan? So it appears better to use the Bible's terminology of 14th Nissan at between the evens to prepare the lamb for eating, and then eat.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<h1><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Pasta</span></h1>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Although pasta is not leavened bread, the Encyclopedia of Judaism says it is still chametz -- prohibited. It does not explain. See this <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ojc4Uker_V0C&amp;lpg=PA102&amp;ots=NOlNEuGJiF&amp;dq=is%20pasta%20leavened%20bread&amp;pg=PA102#v=onepage&amp;q=is%20pasta%20leavened%20bread&amp;f=false">link</a>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Incidentally, Passover&nbsp;is a "perpetual ordinance" (<a href="http://bibref.hebtools.com/?book=%20Exodus&amp;verse=12:14&amp;src=NRSV" target="_blank" style="color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.1875px;">Exodus 12:14</a>).</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><strong><span style="font-size: 18pt;">YouTube Celebrations To Help </span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">If you would like a Rabbi who is Christian walk you through the Seder, it is on this YouTube Video at this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2LysEMaXHw&amp;feature=youtu.be">link</a>. It is 1.5 hours long.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><strong><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Dates of 14 Nissan To Hold Communion Just Before Sunset. </span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">The Jews call the Sunset time at the end of Nissan 14 by the date of Nissan 15. But as explained above, get everything ready on Nissan 14, then remember somberly at "between the evens" Jesus became our passover lamb 2000 years ago... so find out when is sunset, and just 1 minute before it comes, pray a remembrance of Jesus...this is just my advice -- and this precedes the Passover Dinner which can begin immediately after the 1 minute passes. You are now into Nissan 15. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Hence, if you want to know when is Nissan 14, you have to look at a Jewish calendar and find out when Nissan 15 starts -- it starts at Sunset, and then that date is Nissan 14th before Sunset. So Christians begin the celebration a few minutes before Nissan 15 - the sunset of what we know as the day Nissan 14. Here is the Jewish calendar dates in the future for Nissan 15 at this <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/passover/passoverdate.html">link</a>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">4/6/2012</span></p>
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