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<p style="font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 15.8079996109009px;"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #800080;"><strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;">How Many Times Does Paul's Epistles Uniquely Quote Jesus?</span></strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; font-size: large; background-color: #fffefd;">The answer is zero times. Paul repeats once, maybe twice, words of Jesus from Luke. That's it.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">Clearly, in 1 Corinthians Paul quotes Jesus from the last supper, using Luke's version. Although it is clearly a quote of Jesus, it is certainly not unique. For more on this, see NOTE at end. Hence, if we exclude Paul from canon, we don't lose these words of the Lord Jesus. They are in Luke's Gospel.</span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large; color: #0000ff;">1 Timothy 5:18 Quotes The Original Testament and possibly Jesus again in Luke.</span></strong></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">A second example is mentioned in Scott Schifferd's FORMATION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES blog which says "Paul quoted Luke 10:7 as 'Scripture' in 1 Timothy 5:18." He adds: "Look again to 1 Timothy 5:18 to see that the 'Scripture' of 1 Timothy 5:18 referred to both Deuteronomy 25:4 and Luke 10:7." (July 29, 2015)</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">Based upon this, Scott concludes the term "scripture" necessarily refers to Holy Scripture, and thus is a shorthand. However, the word translated as "scripture" merely means "writings," and whether it means more -- like an inspired writing -- requires examination of context.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">For example, the word "writings" (translated as 'Scripture' with a capital S) does in the context of 1 Timothy 5:18 refer to inspired writings. But this is only deducible from the context of a quotation of a known inspired writing. Otherwise, <em><strong>graphe</strong></em> - scripture -- is highly ambiguous, and can refer to non-inspired materials and 'writings' just as easily.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">Let's first look at 1 Timothy 5:18. Here's the NIV:</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">For Scripture says, "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain," and "The worker deserves his wages." (<a href="http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/5-18.htm">1 Tim. 5:18, NIV</a>.) </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">The first quote is clearly from Deuteronomy 25:4 -- "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain."</span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 15.8079996109009px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">The second does appear to be from Luke 10:7 which reads: "Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house." In Greek the words "for the worker deserves his wages" is ho ergates tou misthou. These are almost the identical words in 1 Timothy 5:18.</span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 15.8079996109009px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">It could also be a paraphrase from the law.</span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.16px; line-height: 15.808px; margin-left: 30px;"><a href="http://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-13.htm"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">Leviticus 19:13</span></a></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.16px; line-height: 15.808px; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">"'Do not defraud or rob your neighbor. "'Do not hold back the wages of a hired worker overnight.</span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.16px; line-height: 15.808px; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">Do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is a fellow Israelite or a foreigner residing in one of your towns.</span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.16px; line-height: 15.808px; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">Pay them their wages each day before sunset, because they are poor and are counting on it. Otherwise they may cry to the LORD against you, and you will be guilty of sin. [From Cross-references to 1 Tim. 5:18.]</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: large;">If you simply read the Law, you would conclude the "worker deserves his wages." Hence, Paul's reference is not clearly from Jesus' words in Luke. Even so, this quote if from Jesus' words is not unique. If we excluded Paul from Holy Scripture, we would not lose these words as they already exist in Luke, and the same thought is in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. We would lose nothing uniquely specifically quoting Jesus if we excluded Paul's epistles from canon.</span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 30px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; font-size: large; background-color: #fffefd;">w<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+26%3A26-27&version=NIV" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #001320; text-decoration: underline; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;">hile they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it</span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;"></span></span><span style="color: #001320; text-decoration: underline; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;"> and gave it to his disciples, saying, </span><span style="color: #001320; text-decoration: underline; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;">“Take and eat; <strong>this is my body.</strong>”</span></a></span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 15.8079996109009px;"><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; font-size: large; background-color: #fffefd;">Luke fills in a little more detail: </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 30px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; font-size: large; background-color: #fffefd;"><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;">19 </span><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;">And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it,</span><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;"></span><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;"> and gave it to them, saying, </span><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;">“This is my body<em><strong> given for you</strong></em>; do this in remembrance of me.” (Luke <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+22%3A19&version=NIV" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline;">22:19</a>.)</span></span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 15.8079996109009px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 19, 32); font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 253);">John makes a relevant comment at this point. As we all know, t</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 19, 32); font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 253);">he Psalmist prophesied not one bone of Jesus' would be broken, which the Gospel of John mentions was fulfilled when the soldiers decided not to break Jesus' legs. See </span><a href="http://bible.cc/john/19-36.htm" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: medium; line-height: 21px;">John 19:36</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 19, 32); font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 253);"> ("These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "</span><em style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: medium; line-height: 21px;"><strong>Not one of his bones will be broken,</strong></em><span style="color: rgb(0, 19, 32); font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 253);">") </span></p>
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<p style="font-size: 12.1599998474121px; line-height: 15.8079996109009px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 19, 32); font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 253);">However, in one version of Paul's epistle to the Corinthians, it would appear Paul misquotes both Luke and Matthew, and says Jesus' body was "broken" for the apostles. <span style="color: rgb(0, 19, 32); font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 253);">In 1 Cor. 11:24, Paul in the King James quotes Jesus saying "this is my body</span><strong style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: medium; line-height: 21px;"> broken </strong><span style="color: rgb(0, 19, 32); font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 253);">for you." (KJV, Aramaic, King James 2000, American King James, Websters, Weymouth, World English, Young's Literal). </span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;" data-mce-mark="1">Many translations do not have "broken" unlike the KJV. See Biblios </span><a href="http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/11-24.htm" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">1 Cor. 11:24</a><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;" data-mce-mark="1">. So the following translations only say Paul quotes the liturgy as "</span><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: medium;">my body is for you</strong><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;" data-mce-mark="1">" -- NIV, NLT, ESV, NASB, ISV, God's Word, Darby. There are some legitimate variants of 1 Cor. 11:24 that support this: see this </span><a href="http://web.ovc.edu/terry/tc/lay161co.htm" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">list</a><span style="color: #001320; font-family: 'times new roman', times; text-align: justify; background-color: #fffefd;" data-mce-mark="1">. It explains:</span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 10px; color: #494a44; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">For example P 46 means Papyrus 46. This papyrus indeed has coverage of 1 Cor. 11. And it dates from 175-225 AD. ("<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_46" style="color: #517291; text-decoration: underline;">Papyrus 46</a>," <em>Wikipedia</em>.) The S* is the oldest complete NT from 340 AD - the Sinaiticus. This gives substantial support for a transmission error, rather than an error by Paul.</span></p>
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