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<h2><strong>Why Did God Have To Send Prophets to Paul Not To Go Jerusalem if Paul Truly Was In Prophetic Connection to Christ?</strong></h2>
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<p><span style="font-family: __; font-size: 12pt;">The events recorded in Acts 21 and 24 about the trip of Trophimus and Paul to Jerusalem provide us proof that Paul was not in prophetic communication with the true Risen Lord Jesus. This is proven because Paul defied two separate prophetic messages <em>not to go to Jerusalem</em> in Acts 21:10-11 and 21:4, as Luke describes them. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">In Acts <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2021:3-4&amp;version=KJV">21:4</a> (KJV), we read:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><sup class="versenum">4 </sup><span>And finding disciples, we tarried there seven days: <strong><em>who said to Paul through the Spirit, that he should not go up to Jerusalem</em></strong>.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">The implication is so clear that pro-Paul commentators confess the only choice is to deny the literal meaning. Adam Clarke, the famouse Methodist commentator said:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"> <span></span><strong>Who said to Paul through the Spirit - </strong><span>We cannot understand this as a command from the Holy Spirit not to go up to Jerusalem, else </span><strong><em>Paul must have been highly criminal to have disobeyed it</em></strong><span>. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: __; font-size: 12pt;">In Acts 21:10-11, Agabus "the prophet" gave a message to corroborate and explain why Paul should not go. As Frederick Watson in <em>Inspiration</em> (London: 1906) at <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=vtGSDPaiRNYC&amp;dq=Watson%20Inspiration&amp;pg=PA137#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">137</a> notes: “St. Paul did not follow the guidance of the <strong><em>true prophet Agabus [i.e., Acts 21:10-11], not to go up to Jerusalem, though other disciples speaking in the Spirit had said the same</em></strong>.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">But if Paul were truly listening to the true Jesus, how could Paul possibly have defied the Holy Spirit in this way?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Paul-admirers have no answer. They are befuddled: "I am not sure why Paul was so intent on going to Jerusalem,<em><strong> ignoring the warnings of the Holy Spirit </strong></em>and his friends." ("<a href="http://awaitingawhiterobe.blogspot.com/2011/03/agabus-fallible-prophet-part-2.html">Agabus the Fallible Prophet?</a>" March 29, 2011.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">We shall see precisely why God sent twice commands to Paul through others not to go to Jerusalem. Much was at stake for God-Yahweh. For on this trip, Paul's companion---Trophimus---defiled the Temple of Jerusalem.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">These events prove Paul was never in connection with the true Jesus. <em><strong>For why did God have to speak through the prophet Agabus and other believers to try to persuade Paul to not go to Jerusalem?</strong></em> Wouldnt the Christ of Pauls revelation have told Paul not to do so if that Christ was the true Christ? And if the true Christ spoke in agreement with His Father, as He must, then Paul certainly would not have gone to Jerusalem. Only a false Christ would keep quiet or encourage Paul to go ahead anyway. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Hence, the "Jesus" Paul thought he met on the wilderness way to Damascus (Acts 9:1-3)--when Jesus said already He would not appear after He departed them in any wildnerness location (Matt 24:24-27)--could not be the true Jesus we all know and love.</span></p>
<h2>Background on Events</h2>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Ezekiel had said an uncircumcised Gentile in the Temple represents an abomination. (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2044:9&amp;version=NIV">Ezekiel 44:9</a>.) Jesus in Matthew 24:15 refers to Daniels prophecy of an abomination standing in the Temple as still in the future. Jesus says “this is the abomination” spoken by Daniel.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Did this later happen?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Yes. For an abomination of the Temple took place in 58 AD when an Ephesian named Trophimus—Pauls travelling companion—defiled the Temple. See Acts 21:29, 24:6, 13, 18; 25:7-8. This happened after God spoke to companions of Paul to tell Paul not to go to Jerusalem. Paul went anyway, bringing Trophimus along.</span></p>
<h2>Prophetic Messages To Others to Tell Paul Not To Go To Jerusalem</h2>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Luke records in Acts  Acts <a href="http://bible.cc/acts/21-4.htm">21:4</a> (NLT) that: “We went ashore, found the local believers, and stayed with them a week. These <strong><em>believers prophesied through the Holy Spirit that Paul should not go on to Jerusalem</em></strong>.”</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Frederick Watson in <em>Inspiration</em> (London: 1906) at <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=vtGSDPaiRNYC&amp;dq=Watson%20Inspiration&amp;pg=PA137#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">137</a> similarly notes: “St. Paul did not follow the guidance of the<strong><em> true prophet Agabus [i.e., Acts 21:10-11], not to go up to Jerusalem, though other disciples speaking in the Spirit had said the same</em></strong>.”  Paul-enthusiasts try put a good spin on this, making Paul look heroic: "Through the Holy Spirit, they warned Paul not to go to Jerusalem.  (<a href="http://biblia.com/bible/niv/Acts%2021.4" class="lbsBibleRef" data-reference="Acts 21.4" data-version="niv">Acts 21:4</a>)  However, this <em><strong>did not deter them </strong></em>from traveling on." ("<a href="http://www.bibletrektoday.com/tag/prophet-agabus/">Prophet Agabus</a>.")</span></p>
<h2>God's Reasons</h2>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">But we must ask: why was God concerned? Paul had taught the Ephesians like Trophimus that God “has broken down the middle wall of partition” at the Temple—meaning the barrier to Gentiles entering, “having abolished in his flesh... the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances....” (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eph.%202:14-15&amp;version=NIV">Eph. 2:14-15</a>.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">God knew Trophimus would rely upon Pauls doctrine that the Wall was no longer a barrier. Thereby, God foresaw Trophimus would enter, causing an abomination similar to the one prophesied by Daniel.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Did Trophimus indeed violate the middle wall? Luke says the Jews “supposed” Paul was directly responsible for having brought Trophimus into the prohibited area of the Temple because they earlier saw Paul together with Trophimus in Jerusalem. (Acts 21:28-29.) Trophimus was indeed a close companion of Paul. (Acts 20:4; 2 Tim.4:20.) Yet, Paul said his accusers merely found him (Paul) purifying himself in the Temple. (Acts 24:18.) This was the only inadequacy Paul cited to the charge that he (Paul) was responsible for Trophimus profaning the Temple. See Acts 21:28 (Paul “brought Greeks also into the temple, and.... defiled this holy place.”)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Hence, Paul never denied Trophimus entered the Temple. Paul simply provided an alibi for the time Trophimus violation happened that Paul was at a ceremonial bath.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">What else can explain Trophimus action? Paul also taught that uncircumcision was now nothing in Gods sight. (1 Cor 7:19.) And Paul further taught “God does not live (<strong>katoikei</strong>) in Temples made by human hands.” (Acts 17:24.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">So an Ephesian like Trophimus listening to Paul easily could assume it was safe to enter beyond the middle-wall at the Temple. In fact he could believe it was now even his right in Christ to do so.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">However, Jesus taught the Temple in Jerusalem was the House where the LORD God dwelled. See Matt 23:21 (“swears by the Temple and the one who dwells (<strong>katikounti</strong>) in it”); Lk 2:49 (“my fathers house”) / 19:45-46.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Jesus even taught that Daniels prophecy of an abomination standing in the Temple was in the future. (Matt 24:15-16.) But Paul taught that God does not “live” in such a temple made from human hands. (Acts 17:24.) And Paul told Ephesians that the middle wall was now no longer a barrier to entry. See, Eph. 2:14-15.</span></p>
<h2>God's Purpose of Sending Prophets to Paul</h2>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">This is evidently why God, to deflect Pauls journey, <strong>told true believers to tell Paul not to go to Jerusalem</strong>. (Acts 21:4.) </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Despite such inspired warnings, Paul went anyway. (Acts 21:15; <a href="http://bible.cc/acts/21-24.htm">21:24</a>.). The abomination by Trophimus happened on that trip by Paul to Jerusalem.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">This event has significant repercussions on our tracking whether Jesus warned us about Paul. For this story reveals very telling evidence that proves Paul never met Christ on the "way" to Damascus. For if Paul truly did so, then<strong> why did God have to speak through Agabus and other believers to try to persuade Paul to not go to Jerusalem?</strong> Wouldnt the Christ of Pauls revelation have told Paul not to do so? And that would have sealed the issue for the true God of Heaven? Only a false Christ would keep quiet or tell Paul to go anyway. But the true Christ would have said the same thing to Paul as the prophets twice sent to Paul, and the true Christ thus would have prevented the abomination. Hence, <strong>Paul could not possibly have known the true Christ</strong>.</span></p>
<h2>Conclusion</h2>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">Thus, the other Christ whom Paul assumed was Jesus kept silent or told Paul to go to Jerusalem. That other Christ let the Trophimus-Paul journey continue to Jerusalem, with disastrous results—the abomination that desolates stood in the Temple. And hence, we know Luke recorded these prophecies of God to Agabus and others were true, and Paul could not have truly been in prophetic communication with the true Jesus, or otherwise, Paul would not have gone.</span></p>
<h2>Study Notes</h2>
<p>For detailed information on the importance of Paul's influence in Trophimus defiling the Temple, see our article "<a href="/Recommended-Reading/trophimus.html">Trophimus</a>."</p>
<p>Other Paul-fans admit their puzzlement:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Reviewing the passages from <a href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Acts%2019.21" class="lbsBibleRef" data-reference="Acts 19.21" data-version="esv" target="_blank">Acts 19:21</a> through <a href="http://biblia.com/bible/esv/Acts%2021.10" class="lbsBibleRef" data-reference="Acts 21.10" data-version="esv" target="_blank">Acts 21:10</a>, it seems clear that<strong><em> it was Paul and not the Holy Spirit </em></strong>that had determined that he would go to Jerusalem before starting his next ministry journey in Rome.... However, I am not sure why Paul was so intent on going to Jerusalem, ignoring the warnings of the Holy Spirit and his friends. ("<a href="http://awaitingawhiterobe.blogspot.com/2011/03/agabus-fallible-prophet-part-2.html">Agabus the Fallible Prophet?</a>" March 29, 2011.)</p>
<p><span>Why didn't God go further and reveal Paul as a false prophet to the believers who warned Paul not to go to Jerusalem? God would not tell them Paul was a false prophet because God's purpose in allowing false prophets is to test believers to see whether they love Him with their whole heart, mind and soul, for they should (a) recognize anyone who disobeys prophetic messages others know are given him through them is not following God; or (b) not follow anyone who teaches you against following the Law -- the proof one is a false prophet -- which Paul certainly did teach. See Deuteronomy 13:1 5.</span></p>
<h3>Whitewash Attempts in Major Commentators</h3>
<p>Presupposing Paul cannot violate the Holy Spirit's command, Barnes recognizes the dilemma the literal text involves. So he re-reads the passage to be about "if" you go Paul, be warned of dangers, rather than how it literally reads as a flat prohibition:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span>Adam Clarkes Commentary on the Bible<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Who said to Paul through the Spirit - </strong>We cannot understand this as a command from the Holy Spirit not to go up to Jerusalem, else <strong><em>Paul must have been highly criminal to have disobeyed it</em></strong>. Through the Spirit, must either refer to their own great earnestness to dissuade him from taking a journey which they plainly saw would be injurious to him - and so Bp. Pearce understands this place; or, if it refer to the Holy Spirit, it must mean that if he regarded his personal safety he must not, at this time, go up to Jerusalem. The Spirit foretold Pauls persecutions, but does not appear to have forbidden his journey; and Paul was persuaded that, in acting as he was about to do, whatever personal risk he ran, he should bring more glory to God, by going to Jerusalem, than by tarrying at Tyre or elsewhere. The purport of this Divine communication was, “<strong><em>If thou go up to Jerusalem the Jews will persecute thee; and thou wilt be imprisoned</em></strong>, etc.”</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John Gill is the same, re-reading the passage that it must mean something else because Paul would never violate the Holy Spirit:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span>John Gills Commentary</span></span><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><strong>who said to Paul through the Spirit, that he should not go up to Jerusalem</strong>; not that the Spirit of God in these persons contradicted his own impulse in the apostle, by which he was moved to go to Jerusalem, see <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Act_20:22</span>. The sense is, that these disciples, by the spirit of prophecy, knew that if the apostle went to Jerusalem, many evil things would befall him; wherefore of their own spirit, and out of love to him, they advise him not to go.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">However, Luke was more likely willing to show the good and the bad of Paul.</p>
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