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<p><span style="font-size: medium; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">In Bacon's article, "The Purpose of Mark's Gospel," at <a href="http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/jbl/1910_bacon.pdf">51</a>, we read:</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: medium; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">"The Asian gospel [<em>i.e.</em>, John] is Quartordeciman...making the sacrifice take place on 14 Nisan (not 15th as in Mark) at the hour prescribed by the Mosaic ritual. The Anointing of Bethany is dated not "two days" before the Passover, but "six days" before in order that it would coincide in the choosing of the lamb on the 10th of Nisan. The Resurrection and Ascension fall on the Day of First Fruits, 16th Nisan...."</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: medium; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Thus, it is important to realize that the Good Friday celebration is erroneous. And the "Passover" meal being the last supper is equally erroneous. Instead, Jesus ate a meal 2 days (daylight periods - Gen. 1:5 "light he called day") prior to the Passover Sabbath -- that is on Nissan 13 -- when preparations of Passover would be made for its special Sabbath observance on the 15th (e.g., cleaning a house of leaven), and then Jesus was executed on Nissan 14 at the ninth hour (3 pm) -- which coincides with the slaying of the lambs required in Deut. 16:6, and then passover meals were eaten that night after sunset of the 14th and when Nissan 15 began. Then Jesus arose before sunrise on Nissan 18 -- our Sunday, making Jesus three days and three nights (but not a full 4th night) in the grave. Jesus was in the grave for the full duration of the nights of Nissan 15 (Wednesday night), Nissan 16 (Thursday night), and Nissan 17 (Friday night), but not the full Saturday night through morning / Nissan 18 -- rising before sunrise of the first day of the week; and Jesus was in the grave three days -- Nissan 16 (Thursday morning), Nissan 17 (Friday morning), and Nissan 18 (Saturday morning). </span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 30px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">The Hebrew word </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><em><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1">ben</span></em><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"> (Strong’s # H996) means: “between” (see Gesenius’ Lexicon). In the form here it is spelled differently than its lexical form </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"> because it is in the construct (if you want more details on the construct form in the Hebrew language let me know, I will give you references in Gesenius’ Grammar and another grammar).<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 30px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">So, all of the above was a very detailed breakdown to show one thing, the word “twilight” is an incorrect translation and shouldn’t be relied upon in any way, shape, or form. Because you were taking the word “twilight” as being a literal and accurate rendering of the underlying Hebrew phrase, it has greatly skewed your opinion of what I believe, unfortunately. I will definitely be more careful in the future when quoting scriptures to make sure they contain the true translations (as much as physically possible). So, please forgive me for that.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 30px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Moving on…In the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">whole</span> of the scriptures the “Day of <span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222;">Passover</span>” is a complete day, 24 hours worth, no question. The Master’s Supper, where the first Eucharist was given, was celebrated <em>at the beginning</em> of the 14<sup>th</sup> day of the first month. That means that<em>after sunset</em> that <em>ended</em> the 13<sup>th</sup> of the month, in the nighttime hours of the 14<sup>th</sup> day (which is the beginning of that day since the days begin at sunset) Yeshua gave the emblems of his body and blood. Throughout that evening they took the journey to Gethsemane, he was illegally tried at night, appeared before Pilate in the morning, and was crucified <em>on the third hour</em> of the day (9:00am) ON the 14<sup>th</sup> (still the Day of <span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222;">Passover</span>). To clarify the next part I need to quote another scripture:<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 30px; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Deuteronomy 16:5-6 (ASV) – “Thou mayest not sacrifice the <span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222;">passover</span> within any of thy gates, which Yahweh thy Elohim giveth thee; but at the place which Yahweh thy Elohim shall choose, to cause his name to dwell in, there thou shalt sacrifice the<span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222;">passover</span> at even, <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">at the going down of the sun</span></em>, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt.”<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></strong></p>
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<p> The execution of the lambs takes place in the middle of the afternoon on the 14th as passover approaches.</p>
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<p><strong style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;">John's account would line up with the time of sacrifice for Passover. Deuteronomy 16:6 (ASV) – “thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, <em>at the going down of the sun</em>, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt.”</strong></p>
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<p>In "<a href="http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Spring_Holidays/Pesach/Zman_Seder/zman_seder.html">When Does Passover Begin?</a>" at HEBREW FOR CHRISTIANS, it explained somewhat differently when the lambs are slain: the afternoon of the 14th prior to commencment of Passover at sunset .</p>
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<p style="line-height: 18px;">During the time of the Temple, <em>zman shechitat korban Pesach</em> (the time of the slaughter of the Passover lambs) was performed during the afternoon hours of Nisan 14, in observance of the commandment: "In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the evenings (i.e., <em>bein ha-arbayim</em>), is the Passover for the LORD" (<a href="http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?&version=ESV&passage=Lev.%2023:5" target="_blank" style="color: #660000;">Lev. 23:5</a>). Note that the time of the lamb's sacrifice is described as "bein ha-arbayim," usually translated as "between the evenings" or "between the settings." To the sages, the "first setting" of the Sun occurred at the beginning of its descent after noon, and the "second setting" referred to sundown or twilight. Hence "bein ha-arbayim" would mean sometime after noon but before twilight, or more simply, "the afternoon." </p>
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<p>The sacrifice of the Passover lambs on the afternoon of Nisan 14 agrees with Jewish Oral Law and tradition. As Maimonides wrote, "It is a positive commandment to slaughter the Korban Pesach on the fourteenth of Nisan after midday"<em> (Hilchot Korban Pesach). </em>There is some discussion among the sages, however, as to whether the sacrifice of the korban Pesach occurred before or after the second set of tamid (daily) offerings made at the Temple (<a href="http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible?&version=ESV&passage=Exod.%2029:38-42,%20Num.%2028:1-8" target="_blank" style="color: #660000;">Exod. 29:38-42, Num. 28:1-8</a>). In general, however, most of the sages agreed with Maimonides who clearly stated: "The Korban Pesach is not slaughtered until <em>after</em> the Tamid of the afternoon." In other words, the slaughter of the Passover lambs occurred on the late afternoon of Nisan 14.</p>
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<p><span style="line-height: normal; font-size: 16pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: teal;">Numbers 9:2-4</span><span style="color: #222222; line-height: normal; font-size: 16pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> "Now, let the sons of Israel observe the Passover at its appointed time. <span style="color: teal;">- 3</span> "On the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">fourteenth day of this month, at twilight</span>, you shall observe it at its appointed time; you shall observe it according to all its statutes and according to all its ordinances." <span style="color: teal;">- 4</span> So Moses told the sons of Israel to observe the Passover.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">The </span><span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">Passover</span><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> lambs were to legally be slain </span><em style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">at the going down</em><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> of the sun, not </span><em style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">after</em><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> it went down. When does the sun start going down in the sky? From high noon through sunset the sun is </span><em style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">going down</em><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">. If you need me to go into the details of the Hebrew of that verse as well please let me know, I am more than willing to. Now, Josephus gives us a contemporary testimony as to when they sacrificed the </span><span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">Passover</span><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> in the 1</span><sup style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">st</sup><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> century (i.e. the exact hours):</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">I believe that Yeshua was crucified on what the whole of the scriptures call the “Day of </span><span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">Passover</span><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">”, which is the 14</span><sup style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">th</sup><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> day of the first Biblical month, Aviv. This 14</span><sup style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">th</sup><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> day is from sunset to sunset, just as every other Biblical day is. At the beginning of the 14</span><sup style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">th</sup><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">day of the month (which is the dark portion of it, since it begins at sunset), Yeshua had his last supper with his disciples. The following morning (which is still the 14</span><sup style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">th</sup><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> day of the month) he was crucified at the third hour, around 9:00am. Six hours later, at the ninth hour, when the </span><span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">Passover</span><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"> lambs were commanded to be slain “</span><strong style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">between the evenings</span></em></strong><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">,” and “</span><strong style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">at the going down of the sun</span></em></strong><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">,” Yeshua died as our </span><span class="il" style="background-color: #ffffcc; color: #222222; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">Passover</span><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: normal;">.</span></p>
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