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<p><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">In <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+10:2-4">Matthew 10:2-4</a>, we read:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Mat 10:2 &nbsp;Now the names of the <strong>twelve</strong> apostles are these; The first, Simon,&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">John his brother; Mat 10:3 &nbsp;Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Thaddaeus; Mat 10:4 &nbsp;Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">betrayed him.</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and the 11 remaining Apostles picked the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">twelfth according to this criteria in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+1%3A21-22&amp;version=NIV">Acts 1:21-22</a>:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Act 1:21 &nbsp;Wherefore of these men which have companied with us<strong> all the time&nbsp;</strong></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong>that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us</strong>, Act 1:22 &nbsp;Beginning from the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Matthias was chosen to replace Judas. In <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+1%3A25-26&amp;version=NIV">Acts 1:25-26 </a>we read:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Act 1:25 &nbsp;That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Act 1:26 &nbsp;And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias;&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">and <strong>he was numbered with the eleven apostles.</strong></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Why only 12 Apostles are picked by Jesus? &nbsp;</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+19%3A28&amp;version=NIV">Mat 19:28</a> &nbsp;And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon<strong> twelve thrones</strong>, judging the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">twelve tribes of Israel.&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">and</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+22%3A30&amp;version=NIV">Luk 22:30</a> &nbsp;That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong>thrones judging the twelve tribes</strong> of Israel.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">and more proof that there are only 12</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation+21%3A14&amp;version=NIV">Rev 21:14 </a>&nbsp;And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">names of the <strong>twelve apostles</strong> of the Lamb.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">So we have a clear cut case that there are 12 Apostles of the lamb, or of&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Jesus Christ.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">So if we have a case of someone claiming to be an Apostle of Jesus whose&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">name is not one of these 12 then that person or persons would be liars / telling a falsehood&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">acording to the words of Jesus and his 12 Apostles, correct?</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation+2%3A2&amp;version=NIV">Rev 2:2</a> &nbsp;I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which sa<strong>y they&nbsp;</strong></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><strong>are apostles, and are not</strong>, and hast found them liars:</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">So, who was Jesus talking about in Revelation 2:2 in the year 67 to 100 AD?</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">His remarks are to the angel of church of Ephesus.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation+2%3A1&amp;version=NIV">Rev 2:1</a> &nbsp;Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write;</span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Do we have any hard evidence of anyone who called himself an Apostle of&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Jesus Christ to the Ephesians, who was not on the list of Apostles as was&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">given by our Lord or his Apostles in the scriptures?</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Why yes we do.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1"><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ephesians+1%3A1&amp;version=NIV">Eph 1:1 </a>&nbsp;Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:</span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">WOW, Paul here clearly is giving claim to being an Apostle of&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Jesus Christ and is clearly saying this to Ephesians in Ephesus in or about&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">62 AD.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Is Paul's name on the list of the 12 Apostles of Jesus Christ?</span></strong></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">It is not on the Mathew 10:2-4 list, nor did Luke in Acts 1 list Paul as on&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">the list of the remaining 11 Apostles, nor did Luke list Paul as the 12th&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Apostle picked to replace Judas as the 12th Apostle.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Can Paul even be an Apostle of Jesus Christ?</span></strong></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Because of the qualifications listed in Acts 1:21-22 I think the clear cut&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">answer to this question is NO.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Was Paul companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">among us Acts 1:21?</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">No, there is no evidence of Paul being present at that time, period.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Was Paul there Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">he was taken up, as required inActs 1:22a?</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">No, again no evidence from Paul or any one else as to him being there at&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">that time.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: 'times ne
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">1Co 15:5 &nbsp;And that he was seen of Cephas [i.e., Peter's name in Aramaic], then of the <strong>twelve</strong>:</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">1Co 15:6 &nbsp;After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">1Co 15:7 &nbsp;After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">1Co 15:8 &nbsp;And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">time.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">All others accounts -- first <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+28%3A1%2C+8-10&amp;version=NIV">Matthew 28:1,8-10</a>:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Mat 28:1 &nbsp;In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">day of the week, came <strong>Mary Magdalene</strong> and the other Mary to see the&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">sepulchre.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Mat 28:8 &nbsp;And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Mat 28:9 &nbsp;And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">saying, All hail. And they came and <em><strong>held him by the feet</strong></em>, and worshipped&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">him.</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Mat 28:10 &nbsp;Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;" data-mce-mark="1">Finally, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+20%3A14-18&amp;version=NIV">John 20:14-18</a>:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1"></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Joh 20:14 &nbsp;And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Joh 20:15 &nbsp;Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou?</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Joh 20:16 &nbsp;Jesus saith unto her, <strong>Mary</strong>. She turned herself, and saith unto&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Joh 20:17 &nbsp;Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Joh 20:18 &nbsp;<strong>Mary Magdalene</strong> came and told the disciples that she had seen the&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">Paul's account has Peter seeing the Lord first and no mention of the Marys&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;" data-mce-mark="1">seeing Jesus first or at all seeing Jesus.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">[Paul then <em><strong>says next the 12 saw Jesus, Paul thereby recognizing he himself is not among the 12 apostles</strong></em>. Paul was writing at a point he already knew that Matthias was among the 12 apostles. Paul is saying Apostle Matthias saw Jesus with the 11 other Apostles in the next appearance event.][Edit by Doug] &nbsp;</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Paul then goes on to say that 500 people had seen the Lord at one time but&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">that some are now dead. But Luke records in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts+1%3A13-15&amp;version=NIV">Acts 1:13-15</a> an apparently far smaller number of 120:</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Act 1:13 &nbsp;And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Judas the brother of James.</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Act 1:14 &nbsp;These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Act 1:15 &nbsp;And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">and said, (the number of names together were<strong> about an hundred and twenty</strong>,)</span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Clearly Luke says that their were only 120 people in all at that time of&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Christ being seen.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">It is now that Paul makes the bigest misstatement about the resurection of all. He&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">then says that he was there after the resurection and saw Jesus himself&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">"born out of due time" what ever that is suppose to have meant. On the road to&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Damascus he was suppose to have met Jesus for the first time but now he says&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">he met Jesus after the resurection. Paul <strong>says this like he was there with&nbsp;</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><strong>all the other people</strong> when he saw Jesus after the resurection, yet there is no mention of&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">the road to Damascus event. Only now are we familiar with the context from Acts 9, 22 and 26 where Luke puts the event on the Road to Damascus, years after Jesus' ascension. But the <strong>Corinthians were told by Paul that Paul saw Jesus after the resurrection, with no note on the delay and that it was after the Ascension.</strong></span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Then, by the way, Paul isn't remiss to take a snipe at the true Apostles by&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">saying that he has worked harder than the other Apostles after he tells us that&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">in all modesty how he is the least of the Apostles,which by the way is the&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">definition of Paul's name "least." (See <a href="/recommendedreading/280-jesus-on-paul-the-least.html">link</a>.) We read in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+corinthians+15%3A9-10&amp;version=NIV">1 Cor. 15:9-10</a>:</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">1Co 15:9 &nbsp;For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">1Co 15:10 &nbsp;But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Paul says God picked him to be an Apostle of Jesus. But Jesus never said this.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Again Paul makes a claim that has no witnesses to back up this claim, but we&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">are supposed to just take it on face value with no witnesses and no proof.</span></span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Jesus says in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+5%3A31&amp;version=NIV">Joh 5:31</a>: &nbsp;</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.</span></p>
<p><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Returning to 1Corinthians 15:5-8, Paul is giving an order of events as he allegedly saw it.&nbsp;</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Paul is very precise about the order of events and it does not line up with&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">any of the other accounts that we have? Why?</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Is Paul's witness of the resurection believable when compared to the other&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">accounts?</span></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">I say no. We would have to call every one else who wrote about the&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">resurrection a liar or just plain wrong about their recollection of the events&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">as they happened. This just doesn't seem right that every one else is wrong</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">and not Paul. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">END</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><strong>Study Notes by Doug</strong></span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br /></p>
<p><span style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">Paul was never&nbsp;numbered as a thirteenth apostle. Not even Barnabas in his Epistle recognizes Paul&rsquo;s Apostleship! &nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">"[The Apostles] to whom he gave the power of the Gospel to preach; and</span><em style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">&nbsp;<strong>there are twelve as a testimony to the tribes</strong></em><strong style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">,</strong><span style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">&nbsp;because there are</span><strong style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;"><em>&nbsp;twelve tribes&nbsp;</em></strong><span style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">of Israel." (Epistle of Barnabas&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/barnabas.html" style="color: #517291; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold;">8:3</a><span style="color: #494a44; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 24px;">).</span></p> </td>
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