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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; color: #333399;">Did Israel Reject the True Christ As Paul Says?</span></strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;">When Israel rejected their Messiah and his offer of the Kingdom, God raised up the Apostle Paul and gave salvation to the Gentiles.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;">To reject Pauline Christianity is to reject salvation in this day and age and the Grace Gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.</span><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><br style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;" /><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;">Shameful.</span></p>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Acts depicts many "myriads" (tens of thousands) of Jews came to the Lord by Acts 21. James tells Paul this. In <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%206:7">Acts 6:7</a>, it likewise says "many priests [at the Temple] were obedient to the faith." The entire original church was made up of Jews -- citizens of Israel. Why do you say that Israel <em>en masse </em>rejected its Messiah as truly portrayed by the 12 and James in light of this strong evidence to the contrary? </span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">But the message from the true Jesus, which included full adherence to the Law given Moses (Matt 5:17-19 and Luke 16) was accepted by "myriads" (10s of thousands) of Jews, Luke records by Acts 21. Hence, the premise of your accusation of shamefulness above is not true.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Since 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJB) tells us to rightly divide the word of truth, and Ephesians 1:13 tells what the word of truth is: the gospel of our salvation, why would we need to rightly divide it? </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Because there's more than one gospel in the Bible. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">The Apostle Paul's "my gospel" differs to Israel's kingdom gospel that was preached by the twelve of times past. We are currently living between the Daniel's 69th and 70th week which wasn't prophesied as the risen Christ gave the Apostle Paul the Revelation of the Mystery which was hid in God before the foundation of the world. Times have moved on since Jesus came only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (read it in Matthew). We are currently living in the "but now" period, and when the Day of Christ happens, otherwise known as the rapture, the Day of the Lord will take effect with doctrine from Hebrews to Revelation to the 7 churches of Israel (depicted throughout the Old Testament).</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">If you do not rightly divide the word of truth - you're in trouble as Paul's "my" gospel given to him by the risen Christ <em><strong>differs</strong></em> from Israel's kingdom gospel. Paul's gospel to the Gentile is without works thrown into the occasion, where Israel's levitical and mosaic law has temporarily been put in abeyance along with Israel's prophetic programme. Today, just as Abraham was saved as a Gentile, we are saved by faith alone, whereas Israel's kingdom gospel is one of faith plus works.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Paul distinctly says he magnifies his office and we are to be followers of him as he is of Christ. We are Gentiles, not Jews and we do not follow a works based salvation programme and we aren't under Israel's levitical or mosaic law.</span></p>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Did Paul ever quote Jesus ever saying anything to Paul about what you just said? As you know, a prophet -- a true prophet -- has to quote the "Lord" as telling him something is true to be believed? So where in any of Paul's writings does Paul attribute these ideas to words Paul received from Jesus? If you acknowledge there is nothing from Jesus teaching on any topic ever quoted by Paul in his epistles other than the liturgy, do you see a problem in following Paul without even one word of Jesus confirming what Paul says is true?</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: #0000ff; font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Layla's Reply That Paul Has the Superior Lessons from Jesus But Not A Prophet</span></strong></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">I agree with you, <em><strong>Paul isn't a prophet</strong></em>, but then again, there aren't any prophets in this current dispensation of God's grace, when Israel is lo-ammi and her prophetic programme has been put on hold until a future date, when God will again deal with them and bring them during the Day of the Lord (tribulation). Paul was a Pharisee, born in Tarsus, Turkey, he was persecuting the little Flock - the Church at Jerusalem, he was a Christ denier, but he knew the Tanach (Old Testament scriptures), until the risen Christ appeared to him personally. Prophets were given to Israel in times past to warn Israel of the grave consequences of her apostasy. No prophets were elected to the Gentile nations. Prophets were sent to the Gentiles nations yes to preach salvation to them, that they had to prostelyze to the Jewish faith in order to be saved, and this is where Israel fell short. Jonah being a good example of one who was sent to preach salvation to the Gentiles. Caps are for emphasis :</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,</span>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I AM JESUS WHOM THOU PERSECUTEST: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.</span></p>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:</span>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: FOR HE IS A CHOSEN VESSEL UNTO ME, TO BEAR MY NAME BEFORE THE GENTILES, AND KINGS AND THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL:</span></p>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">GALATIANS <span class="aBn" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: #cccccc; position: relative; top: -2px; z-index: 0;" tabindex="0" data-term="goog_1130098288"><span class="aQJ" style="position: relative; top: 2px; z-index: -1;">1:15</span></span>-16</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, (16) To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">What confuses people the most and it's the basic reason why they can't wrap their heads around Paul being the 13th Apostle as :</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">There are 12 Apostles - one elected for each of the 12 tribes of ISRAEL - so what does one do with Paul?</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Revelation <span class="aBn" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: #cccccc; position: relative; top: -2px; z-index: 0;" tabindex="0" data-term="goog_1130098289"><span class="aQJ" style="position: relative; top: 2px; z-index: -1;">21:12</span></span> - And had a wall great and high, and had TWELVE gates, and at the gates TWELVE angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the TWELVE tribes of the children of Israel:</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Revelation <span class="aBn" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: #cccccc; position: relative; top: -2px; z-index: 0;" tabindex="0" data-term="goog_1130098290"><span class="aQJ" style="position: relative; top: 2px; z-index: -1;">21:14</span></span> - And the wall of the city had TWELVE foundations, and in them the names of the TWELVE apostles of the Lamb. </span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">And along comes the Apostle Paul, the 13th Apostle and there's no place for him, so what do people do because :</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">a) He preaches totally different doctrine to the twelve.</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">c) He preaches spirit baptism as opposed to water baptism.</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">d) He preaches that it is our faith alone in the finished work of Christ on Calvary's cross without any works that saves us, in direct opposition to James 2 (compare James 2 to Romans 4).</span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;</span>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><hr /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">My Reply - This is Contradictory of Jesus and Internally Inconsistent</span> </strong>(9/1/2013)</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;">Furthermore, you never disputed what I said earlier -- that Paul never quotes Jesus on anything not already in the gospel. Paul solely attributes words to Jesus learned from the communion liturgy. So if Paul is not a prophet, then you evidently are accepting him as a teacher. Because he is not divinely inspired, i.e., not a prophet, then why are you trusting him?</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;">Furthermore, the entire dispensation theory crumbles when you examine the last words of Jesus to the 12 -- "go and teach the nations (goyim in Hebrew -- Gentiles) all that I have commanded you." Jesus evidently thought what He taught earlier applied. There was no different dispensation for the Gentiles than what Jesus delivered to the Jews.</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;">In light of this, it is self-evident you are relying upon a non-prophet to teach you things contrary to what Jesus taught, but at the same time you claim Paul was taught these teachings by Jesus even though there is not a shred of evidence to prove Paul attributes his teachings to Jesus. This is true from Acts and all Paul's epistles. You surely have not correctly divided the word of truth - separating the chaffe (Paul's 'teaching's without inspiration that contradict the true Jesus) from the wheat - the words of the true Jesus.</span></div>
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<div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;">Doug</span></span><hr /><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: 'times new roman', times; line-height: normal;">Layla's Response 9/1/2013</span></strong></span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">You don't understand what I'm saying - since Israel is lo-ammi (not God's people today) and in complete apostasy since they rejected their Messiah, and since the prophets were elected by God to ISRAEL - yes, there are no prophets today. Israel's prophetic programme has been put on hold until a future time. God did NOT call any prophets to the Gentile heathen nations - prove this with scripture please. Ezekiel, Isaiah, Micah, etc, etc are ALL written to the nation Israel.</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Since you believe that "teaching all nations" and preaching the gospel to them are our marching orders for today? : Why aren't we seeing whole nations saved, and since God was talking to Israel and instructing them on that - why was their temple destroyed and their country run over by the Romans? How, in that state could they go and "teach all nations?"</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Exactly what I said, God isn't dealing with nations today, He is dealing with individuals - anyone who wants to be saved, can be saved today apart from Israel, they do NOT have to go through Israel today like they did in times past in order to be saved.</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Doug, I fear for you, in denying the Apostle Paul's words and the Gospel given to him by the risen Christ, you like Sherry Shriner and a host of others are flagrantly rejecting salvation by believing another Gospel, i.e., the Kingdom Gospel given to the Jews and preached by the 12 in times past, and when this dispensation comes to a close with the Day of Christ (rapture), God will again start dealing with Israel and her Kingdom Gospel will once again be in effect. He is going to refine them in the fire like gold (tribulation). There is still unfulfilled prophecy contained in the Old Testament prophecies (prophets) pertaining solely to Israel that needs to be fulfilled. Israel lost her elevated status as light to the world - yet you still follow Jewish doctrine, how so?</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">You see the "contradictions" and the differences, but you say it's because Paul is a false apostle, instead of seeing the progressive revelation, which can also be seen in what is known as the "Old Testament" : God didn't deal with Noah the same way He dealt with Adam and Eve, and the same applies to Abraham - all had a different set of instructions : Noah was told to build an ark (he did and obeyed God's instructions), Adam and Eve were instructed not to eat of the forbidden fruit and they did (they disobeyed God's instructions), Abraham as a Gentile was told to pack up and leave Ur with his family - he did and obeyed God's instructions. The Jews were told to repent and be baptised because the Kingdom was at hand (paraphrase) : some of them did, but the majority didn't and instead crucified their King, and in doing so, a new set of instructions came about : Believe in Christ's death for sins, his burial and resurrection and you are saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) without works (Ephesians 2:8-9), Romans 4:5, Romans <span class="aBn" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: #cccccc; position: relative; top: -2px; z-index: 0;" tabindex="0" data-term="goog_347133292"><span class="aQJ" style="position: relative; top: 2px; z-index: -1;">4:25</span></span></span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Now people do not have to or need to go through Israel in order to be saved, but yet you quote what Jesus said to Israel as being our marching orders? Do you still see the current day Israel as being the current light of the world, where most of them are Christ deniers, still believe in Judaism as the path to salvation, most others being atheists, etc. </span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Aah, but you'll say America is a Christian nation - then why is the 10 commandments and prayer banned from schools and other institutions? Why don't they keep the Sabbath?</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">In the initial apostolic era, there was a very strong favorable response to Jesus from Jews. In Acts 21:20, James says "many myriads" of Jews had come to Jesus by that point. The term "myriads" is typically mistranslated as "thousands." (Young's Literal is the only one that is fair, rendering it as "myriads.") However, the meaning of "myriads" in Greek of that era is clear - James said "many tens of thousands" of Jews (or, figuratively, it came to be "an infinite number") had come to Jesus. As Wikipedia explains:</span></div>
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<div><span style="line-height: 19.1875px; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt;">Instead, at that juncture, the only gospel the Jews rejected was the "apostate" one of Paul which the Law commands the Jews to reject (see Deut 13:1-5; Isaiah 8:20). They did not reject the messiah, but the Lawless teachings of Paul spoken allegedly on behalf of Jesus the Messiah. This key distinction is why James in Acts 21 asks Paul about the charge of some that Paul is guilty of "apostasia" from Moses. See "apostasia" under the Greek tab at this link for <a href="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-21.htm" target="_blank" style="color: #1155cc;">Acts 21:21</a>.</span></div>
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<div><span style="line-height: 19.1875px; font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt;">PS Incidentally, you borrow the lo-ammi reference from Hosea 1:8 to suggest this means God was throwing off all Jews at that time or prophetically. But this is wrong. This passage is talking of the northern Kingdom of Israel during the divided kingdom period; the "kingdom of Israel" is identified in 1:4, 1:6, and when it says "I will not show love to Israel,' also says in 1:6 "I will show love to Judah" -- the southern kingdom. Hence, Jews of Judah were specifically beloved. The Israelites of the northern kingdom of Israel were divorced. The New Covenant promised to heal that divorce from the Northern Kingdom, and have a new marriage covenant between "Israel" as one nation again, and God. I have written about this in my brief article <a href="/books/jesuswordsonly/351-israel-a-wife-divorced-question.html" target="_blank" style="color: #1155cc;">Israel - A Wife Divorced.</a></span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">If Paul's gospel and his "lawlessness" (which I would like you to explain to me) reject Christ as you have said, I'd like to know how you discern Acts 9.</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Israel as a NATION rejected her Messiah - that is why they crucified Him, and the reason why they were declared lo-ammi, the reason why the second temple was destroyed and their land given over to the heathen to plunder. Current Israel is not the Israel of God - it is apostate, but I'd like to state at the same time that yes there are individuals living there who are saved because they firmly believe that Christ died for their sins, was buried and raised again on the 3rd day. God is currently pouring out His unmerited favour (grace) on mankind today, and whoever believes the Grace Gospel is saved regardless of race, nationality or fleshly status.</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Thousands of Jews did come to Jesus yes, I'm not denying that - but the majority rejected Him,if they had not, they would have accepted the offer of the Kingdom, but they did not believe He was the Son of God. This can clearly be discerned from scripture :</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">You're right, but this is future. This is one of the prophecies that haven't been fulfilled as yet. The New Covenant which will be instituted during the Millennium is not in effect today. Since the Old Covenant was between God and Israel, the New Covenant is also between God and Israel. Matthew 5 is the blueprint for the Millennium. Matthew 24 is prophecy concerning the Tribulation.</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">6 Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. (THIS PROPHECY WAS FULFILLED AT THE CLOSE OF THE BOOK OF ACTS)</span>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">2 AFTER TWO DAYS will he revive us: (WE CARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN THIS TWO DAY PERIOD) </span></p>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">IN THE THIRD DAY he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. (THIS IS THE MILLENNIUM)</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><br /><span style="font-size: 18pt;">3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the Lord: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. (CHRIST WILL COME DOWN TO EARTH AND RULE AND JUSTICE WILL ONCE AGAIN PREVAIL)</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Why did Jesus stop at this point and not continue? :</span></div>
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<div style="color: #222222; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; background-color: transparent; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size: 18pt;">“The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,…” – Isaiah 61:1-2</span>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">Then he stopped reading. In mid-sentence he stopped. This was not a dramatic pause or a preacher’s pause, Luke <span class="aBn" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: #cccccc; position: relative; top: -2px; z-index: 0;" tabindex="0" data-term="goog_197422435"><span class="aQJ" style="position: relative; top: 2px; z-index: -1;">4:20</span></span> says that was the end. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;">“ And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.” – Luke <span class="aBn" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dashed; border-bottom-color: #cccccc; position: relative; top: -2px; z-index: 0;" tabindex="0" data-term="goog_197422436"><span class="aQJ" style="position: relative; top: 2px; z-index: -1;">4:20</span></span></span></p>
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