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<h2>Gary Says Ananias' Quoting Jesus Proves Paul's Validity</h2>
<h3>Gary's Letter of October 15, 2010</h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">God himself chose Paul and said: Acts 9:15-16 "But the Lord said to him,: and "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake."</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">I'd say that sticking to Paul's teachings, that have withstood both tests and trials throughout two millennia, is better than to hold on to what some theologian has to say (Quote 2).</span></p>
<h3>My Reply</h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">First of all, "chosen" for what? It does not say "apostle" -- the key issue. In&nbsp;<em>Jesus' Words Only</em>, I assume Paul was chosen as a "witness," -- which is what it says is his role in this verse -- the Greek word is "martus" and likewise in the 2 other vision accounts in Acts 22 and 26.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Second, as to the quote in Acts 9:15, how do you know Ananias is a prophet? I point out in my book that there is 0% evidence. In all other Scripture, a prophet must be proven, and not assumed. God gives specific tests so we are not misled, <em>e.g</em>., Deut. 13:1-5.</span></p>
<div><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Thus, based upon a claim of Ananias as a prophet you then invest someone else who has no proof of prophecy -- Paul -- and you by circular evidence have made Paul a prophet by means of an unsubstantiated assumption that Ananias is a prophet.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Of course, you also have Jesus' own requirement that two witnesses are necessary to prove one's status. Jesus applied that to His status as "Son of God." (Jesus had Yahweh speek from heaven twice in front of 2 witnesses or more -- once at His baptism and once at His transfiguration.) Ananias is just one witness. It does not match up with what Jesus requires.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Thus, on multiple levels, those who cite Ananias are not using Biblical tests -- Berean-like tests.... At best you can cite Ananias to prove Paul was chosen as a "witness," nothing more. The title "Apostle" alludes Paul in each of the 3 vision accounts in Acts 9, 22, and 26. Most important, Paul's status is not confirmed by two witnesses, even as a chosen "witness!"&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Blessings,</span><br /><span style="font-size: large; font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Doug</span></p>
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