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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; color: black;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin's Editor Defines a Cult. </strong></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; color: black;"><strong>Does His Definition Apply to Paulinist Dispensational Churches?</strong></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; color: black;">At 4:37-45 of this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=387&amp;v=CisY1QTgEis&amp;feature=emb_logo">YT video</a>, the successor editor of the deceased Walter Martin's work <strong>Kingdom of the Cults </strong>-- Dr. Ravi Zacharias -- defines a cult:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; padding-left: 60px;"><span style="color: black;">"Cult is anything that <strong>deviates</strong> from the historic <strong>person</strong> and <strong>work</strong> of Jesus Christ,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #c55a11;">or</span><span style="color: black;">&nbsp;<strong>adds to his teaching</strong>, and is generally at the <strong>instruction of one individual who dictates that belief</strong>. It is most certainly cultic at that time."</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: black;">Paul is the quintessential&nbsp;one who adds to the teaching of Jesus without attributing in his epistles a single quote from Jesus as any support.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: black;">Then Paul's followers who are dispensational generally&nbsp;adhere to only what Paul teaches. Dispensational pastors and churches dismiss the relevance of Jesus to only the Jews of the time Jesus taught. Jesus' gospel then supposedly expired when the Jews allegedly rejected &nbsp;Jesus' gospel. That's when Jesus supposedly came with Paul's gospel of grace, they claim. This step meant supposedly that we too now must reject the teachings of Jesus in the flesh -- an obedience and works centered gospel -- in favor of a new version -- an anti-law, anti-works and faith alone gospel for salvation.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: black;">Someone must truly wonder whether any dispensationalist ever read about the 3,000 saved Jews in Acts 1, then the additional 5,000 in Acts 3, and of course the "many myriads" = "many times the number 10,000" -- of Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah mentioned in Acts 21:20.<br /></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: black;">Regardless, if you are unfamiliar with this dispensational doctrine, see these webpages that catalog the following Paulinist pastors and major theologians who are dispensationalists: <br /></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: black;"><a href="/recommendedreading/176-bultmann-on-paul.html">Bultmann on Paul</a>&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: black;"><a href="https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/component/content/article/2-jwos/826-sermon-on-the-mount-versus-dispensationalism.html">Willard Dismisses Sermon on the Mount as Impossible and Wrong to Follow</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Hence, by virtue of the successor to Walter Martin's definition of a cult, we now ask whether Pauline dispensationalist churches fit his criteria. &nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">Thus, we shall begin with the first identifier that Ravi Zacharias said in the YouTube about what identifies a cult.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span>It is as follows:</span></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">"A cult is anything that [either] </span></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; padding-left: 60px;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">"deviates from the historic <strong>person</strong> and <strong>work</strong> of <strong>Jesus Christ</strong>" </span></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">Dispensational Churches openly and avowedly dispense with anything that has to do with the person and work of Jesus with one exception. </span></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">The only thing they accept about Jesus is that they must&nbsp; believe in the atoning death of Jesus as well as his burial and resurrection. They do so on the authority of Paul for this view. For Paul claims holding belief steadfastly in those three facts about Jesus' life saves you. See <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A1-4&amp;version=NIV">1 Cor. 15:1-4</a>&nbsp;</span></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">However, while such dispensational pastors claim the benefit of Christ's atonement, they openly renounce Jesus' condition that you must leave the DONOR (atonement gift) at the altar until you did the work necessary to gain forgiveness from someone who thinks you did them wrong -- God or man does not matter.&nbsp; <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+5%3A23-24&amp;version=NIV">Matthew 5:23-24</a>. This is a passage in the Sermon on the Mount. Pauline Dispensationalists clearly affirm that sermon is entirely dead and gone, belonging to a by-gone age. For more on that passage, see <a href="https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/jesuswordssalvation/128-chapter-1-jwos.html">Leave your atonement gift - donor - at the altar.</a>&nbsp;For on how dispensationalists insist the Sermon on the Mount is no longer church truth today or no longer has principles of salvation for today, see <a href="/recommendedreading/852-modern-gospel-teaching-that-sermon-on-the-mount-is-irrelevant.html">Dispensationalists Dismiss the Sermon on the Mount.</a></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">Next, we shall turn to the second separate means of identifying a cult that Ravi Zacharias explained in the above YouTube.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">It is as follows:</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt;">"<strong>Or</strong> a Cult is anything that&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt;">SITUATION #2&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="color: #000000;">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt;"><strong>adds</strong> to his teaching, and is generally at the instruction of <strong>one individual</strong> who dictates that belief. It is most certainly cultic at that time."</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Clearly, in dispensational churches, Paul not only&nbsp;<strong>adds</strong> to Jesus' teaching, but wholly replaces it. This dispensational movement also is led by <strong>one individual</strong> who dictates that belief, namely Paul. The fact the leader of this cult is dead does not make Paul any less a leader of this cult.<br /></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Thus, by&nbsp;<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 24px;">Dr. Ravi Zacharias' own words,</span>&nbsp;the Pauline Dispensationalism Movement, and all its churches, should be identified as a powerful cult in the midst of the church. This popular movement meets both alternative criteria.&nbsp; </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Could Ravi Zacharias have spoken unintentionally a second time the same thing about the error of dispensationalism? Zacharias in a 2017 YouTube at 11:33-39 said this: </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt; padding-left: 60px;"><span style="color: #000000;">The more I walk with him [i.e., Jesus] the more passionately I am convinced that <strong>outside of him [i.e., Jesus] there are no answers</strong>." </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Thus, because dispensationalists blatantly seek answers outside of Jesus, Ravi Zacharias should concede such teachers have no true answers for those seeking salvation. The dispensationalists reject Jesus' teachings of works worthy of repentance such as he taught through&nbsp; Zacchaeus. When Zacchaes agreed to pay 4x what he stole from the poor, Jesus said "This day salvation has come to this house." <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+19%3A8-9&amp;version=NIV">Luke 19:18-19</a>.</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">But what is the reaction of dispensationalists to this passage from Jesus? They look outside of Jesus for the answer. They <strong>impliedly</strong> insist because Paul in Ephesians 2:8-9 says we are saved "by faith, not works, <strong>lest any man should boast</strong>," that such a teaching by Jesus to Zaccheus is dangerous and destructive of salvation. They scream, in effect, that Paul in Ephesians 2:8-9 says such a lesson by Jesus to Zacchaeus actually endangers Zacchaeus' salvation. For Paul teaches such a doctrine of works for salvation is flawed, because it will end up risking unnecessarily that Zacchaeus might boast unto his damnation. </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">But Ravi Zacharias's message correctly says there is "no answer" that is "outside of Jesus" on such matters of salvation. This necessarily includes dispensationalists who embrace faith alone to the exclusion of Jesus' gospel to Zacchaeus. Paul's gospel is an example of a gospel that gives the never-works-are-necessary answer to salvation -- a doctrine well outside the teachings belonging to Jesus.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Did Ravi Zacharias' realize the full meaning of what he was saying this second time? </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">I don't think he in either quote was looking at dispensationalism. But these two quotes by him shows how an objective view of Jesus' gospel proves the truly unorthodox heresy of dispensationalism. Both quotes from Ravi unwittingly destroy dispensationalism.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #000000;">How To Know If Your Pastor Serves This Cult.</span></strong></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">The pastors learn dispensationalism at seminary. You can easily know whether your church pastor is actually unwittingly a part of this cult's useful uncritically accepting followers.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Simply take a pad and paper this Sunday to church. Date the pad at the top left. Then draw a line down the middle of the entire page. Put Jesus' name above &nbsp;the top left column. Put Paul's name above the top right column. Now as you listen to the sermon, put a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tally_marks">tally mark</a> every time Jesus is quoted under the left column.&nbsp; Do the same every time Paul is quoted but under the right column. Then at the end, total the number of tallies on each side. Keep using the next page on the same pad every week. </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">I call this charting.<br /></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">My experience for over five years of charting was it is 13 x Paul is quoted for every time Jesus is quoted. These were mostly independent evangelical churches but also some mainstream denominations too. Sadly, I never have found a church centered on the work and teachings of Jesus in all my many years of trying. <br /><br /></span></p>
<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">For examples of my monitoring over many years with charting what turned out each time to be Pauline church services, and summarizing / quoting the sermons I heard, see <a href="/recommendedreading/708-slanted-pauline-preaching.html">Pauline Slanted Preaching Monitored</a>.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Do not do this charting just one week, or two weeks. Do this ten weeks to be sure. If you find the score is consistent, you are under a pastor co-opted by a cult belief.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Also, realize your pastor has no conscious awareness that he or she is part of a cult. This is why the<strong> seminary means of promulgating this doctrine is so effective</strong>. The allure of a paying career as a pastor frequently requires the imbibing of this teaching. The seminary student is all too eager to learn a gospel that is easy and cheap, and that will grow his or her congregation.</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Yet, sadly the seminary student is unaware that he or she has left the true person and work of Jesus behind. They have added to his words, and followed an individual who guides them to follow and imitate himself (Paul - <a href="https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/11-1.htm">1 Cor. 11:1</a>), not to follow directly Jesus' example. </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">They exactly fit the definition of a cult follower provided by the current editor of <strong>Walter Martin's Kingdom of the Cults.</strong><br /></span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #000000;">Roger's Comment 10/3/2020&nbsp;</span></strong></p>
<div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 18pt;">Doug,</span></div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"></span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Very powerful research...cult definition and cult practices under the charade of Christ's church....</span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Thanks, </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Roger </span></span></div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"><strong>Mimi's Comment of 10/2/2020</strong> </span></span></div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;">Today I am thinking that it all boils down to Daniel 11:32 </span></span></div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; white-space: pre-wrap; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="font-size: 1.2rem; line-height: normal; position: relative; vertical-align: text-top; top: auto; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Noto Sans', sans-serif, Arial; font-weight: bold; display: inline;">32&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Noto Sans', sans-serif, Arial; font-size: 16px;">He [an evil figure] will <strong>corrupt those</strong> who do <strong>wickedly against the covenant</strong> by <strong>flatteries</strong>; but the <strong>people who know their God</strong> will be strong, and take action. (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+11%3A32&amp;version=WEB">WEB Dan. 11:32.</a>)</span></div>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>POST-NOTE</strong>. </span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><strong><span style="color: #000000;">Could JWO Ever Be A Cult Belief?&nbsp;</span></strong></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">We unabashedly promote that New Covenant inspired canon is Jesus' Words Only. Other works in the NT are edifying or history (Acts) or a test from God He expects you to reject like God's <a href="/recommendedreading/722-discerning-disobedience-of-the-rechabites-lesson-about-paul.html">Testing the Rechabites through a command of Jeremiah</a>.</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Using the definition of a cult above, JWO never can be a cult belief. For by the editor's objective definition, we focus on the person and work of Jesus. We do not add to Jesus' words. Finally, we have no single leader but Jesus. We emphasize in fact Jesus said he was the sole teacher and sole pastor.</span></p>
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<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">As a result, JWO never can be a heresy, or at least not a harmful one, because it was the status of the church immediately after Jesus ascended. <br /><br /></span></p>
<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Is the fact few believe in JWO the proof of its invalidity? The opposite is true. For Jesus said that broad is the way that leads to destruction, &nbsp;but narrow is the way that leads to life, and "<strong>few</strong>" find it. See <a href="https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-14.htm">Matt 7:14</a>. <br /></span></p>
<p style="color: #222222; background-color: #ffffff; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="color: #000000;">Hence, a mark of the wrong way -- a heretical way away from Christ -- is indeed its popular appeal, especially because it is easy and cheap when Jesus' way requires an "agonizing" effort to enter the kingdom. See Luke 13:24 explained <a href="http://www.epiphany-wels.org/articles/2016/8/21/agonizing-through-the-narrow-door">here</a>.</span></p>
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