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<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;">In that context, Vincent provided a useful exposition of Deuteronomy 13:1-5 that deals with false prophets. Vincent's work is entitled <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Commonitory of Vincentius Lirinensis</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Concerning the Rule of Faith In Opposition to All Heretical Innovations</span> from 434 AD which is contained in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Apologies of Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Minutius Felix in Defense of the Christian Religion</span> (<span dir="ltr">W.B. for A. and J. Churchill</span><span>, </span><span dir="ltr">1709) Vol. 2, </span>beginning at page <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA223#v=onepage&q&f=false">223</a>. It has a useful Protestant-oriented commentary in footnotes to answer those opinions of Vincent which reflect non-Biblical Catholic doctrines. The chapter of interest on false prophecy is chapter XV (15) at page <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA274#v=onepage&q&f=false">274</a>, entitled "Why Very Great Men Are Permitted by God to Introduce Very Strange Doctrine into His Church." A more modern version from 1847, changing the name to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Commonitory of Vincent of Lerins</span> (Baltimore: Joseph Robbins, 1847) is at this books.google <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rRUQAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR1#v=onepage&q&f=false">link</a>. There chapter XV is renumbered as X on page <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rRUQAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false">25</a>. We will quote from each below as we think some wording was softened in the 1847 edition, and thus the 1709 version is more accurate.</span></p>
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<p>What he claims is interesting conjecture. He says that if an invisible spirit could do something, then it is not a divinely-performed sign and wonder. For example, knowing what happened 1000 miles away, or the levitation of objects is something invisible spirits can do and not just God. <em>Id.</em>, at<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA275#v=onepage&q&f=false"> 275</a>. However, after mentioning the same, the editor says at <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA276#v=onepage&q&f=false">276</a> that there would be no temptation if the difference was easily discernable. Hence the false prophet will have signs very difficult to differentiate from true ones:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We are told likewise in the Gospel that false Prophets and false Chrits will arise and show great Signs and Wonders insomuch that if it were possiible they should deceive the very Elect and that the Coming of the Man of Sin would be after the working of Satan with all Power and Signs, not with lying Wonders --- Fictitious or Counterfeit Miracles -- as our Translation seems to intimate but <strong><em>true real supernatural Wonders wrought in Confirmation of a Lie</em></strong>. For if they were <strong><em>Tricks and Appearances only how could the Coming of Antichrist be said to be according to the working of Satan with all Power.</em></strong> But as Moses did of old so does Chriist give his Disciples a Rule to go by and to try the Spirits and <em>forearmed them against the powerful Temptation</em>. "See to it than any man deceive you, Matthew 24:4 4. So again Mark 13:23: "See to it behold I have foretold you all things Should therefore a Popish Priest by addessing to an Image e or by the help of a Relik do any real supernatural Signs and Wonders to tempt me to the Worship of Images or Relicks I am to reject him as a false Prophet or Dreamer of Dreams <strong><em>because I have a Command before which faith "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and Him only thou shall serve."</em></strong> But now the Miracles of Canst were as much out of</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">[Page<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA277#v=onepage&q&f=false"> 277</a>] the Power of created Spirits as we can possibly imagine any things to be yet had they been supernatural Effects of the first Kind only our Saviour coming in the Name of God and doing such a number of Miracles in his Name and for the <strong><em>Confirmation of a Doctrine exactly agreeable to the positive Revelations of God </em></strong>and the best Reason of Mankind our Saviour I say ought to have been received by the Jews for<em><strong> a true Prophet </strong></em>according to Moses who in the 13 and 18the Chapters of Deuteronomy plainly supposes that God would not permit a false Prophet to work Signs and Wonders but in the Case of Idolatry or such Particulars as were evidently against the Light of Nature because then they would have been an invincible Temptation in the way of good Men. So that unless a Prophet shall come in the Name of God and do Miracles in his Name and for the <strong><em>Confirmation of Doctrines every way suitable to the Nature of God </em></strong>and right Reason such Miracles are no Proof of a divine Mission.</p>
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<h2>Study Notes</h2>
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<p>Same work discusses Paul's anathema that anyone who preaches another doctrine than Paul should be cursed at page <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA269#v=onepage&q&f=false">269</a>.</p>
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<p>Vincent embraces Paul's anathemas as follows:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">"That chosen Vessel cries out that Doctor of the Gentiles that Trumpet of the Apostles that Herald of the World cries out; he that was caught up into the Third Heaven and was made conscious of things unutterable cries out again and again in all his Epistles 'Whoever preaches a new Doctrine let him be accursed." <em>Id.</em>, at <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA273#v=onepage&q&f=false">273</a>.</p>
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<p>Intestingly, in the Pauline-Protestant edits, Vincent is used to prove that if the Catholics added to Scripture requirements for salvation nowhere present, then they come under the condemnation of Paul. See page <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QnpPAAAAYAAJ&dq=tertullian%20against%20the%20jews%20fraudulent&pg=PA273#v=onepage&q&f=false">273</a>. So the editor proclaims "Here then we Vincentus we fix and set our feet...." <em>Id.</em></p>
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