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<p>But Paul uses the very word for "image" -- a Greek word that we know as <em>icon</em> -- that transgresses the command in the Bible against having an ICON or "image" of a creature as representative of God. This is the First Commandment. God means you are <strong><em>not to think by looking at the IMAGE or ICON of a creature that you are looking at God</em></strong>, for the Creator <strong><em>cannot be represented by what He created</em></strong>. The "firstborn," as Paul calls Jesus in Col. 1:15, cannot be an "image" of God without violating the First Commandment. (To repeat, on the scholarly agreement that Paul says Jesus is a "created being" in Col. 1:15, see our article "<a href="/Recommended-Reading/flawedchristologyofpaul.html">Paul's Flawed Christology</a>.")</p>
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<p>So is it proper for Paul, with his understanding of Jesus as a created being, to make Jesus the Man the "image" of the invisible God? Not merely the representative, agent or divine dwelling of God, but the "image" of the invisible God? If not, it is because Paul's words themselves transgress the First Commandment as Paul understood Christ's nature.</p>
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